Newintoon Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Just seen koemans interview of course I want to win this cup that's why I havnt rested anyone,plus there's a European place through the cup! Pardew - we got done by the fixtures we play 2 hrs before everyone that's why I've rested a few We played well tonight,he's still a cunt and want him removed asap! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 No side he picked tonight would have theoretically got him a win. So that point is irrelevant. It's completely contradictory to say he had no part in this tonight with regards to motivation or tactics and by the same token blame him for the same when we get beat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 The nerve of this agent crawling out of the sewer now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I'd think you'd have to be deluded to not have looked at that starting line up at 7:45pm and thought, yeah he's throwing the young ones under the bus. If anyone deserves credit it's the players for hoying that bus out the way. They took the chance that they were given and they made it count, good on them, mores the pity they won't see another match until the QFs though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Tonight had nothing to do with Pardew's ability, because he has none. Suggesting otherwise is nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Most of those guys are players he refuses to give a game too. The man is an idiot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 If the club does truly come first then Alan Pardew and Mike Ashley should be a million miles away from it and no amount of one-off wins should mask that. We're sat here gob smacked because we just beat a team West Ham beat a few days ago. Why accept that? These wins aren't "for the sake of the club", they're to the complete detriment of it. Ultimately, all the Ashley hate is simply a platitude. Everyone says it but the vast majority don't really mean it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 I don't think the team selection for this game specifically should be used as a stick to beat him with, but similarly let's not go claiming he's discovered some revolutionary method at motivating fringe players. He shuffled the deck for the cup game as most managers of his calibre do. By that I mean mediocre long ball specialists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 Someone has just commented this on my FB status re:Pardew He's proven over his career that he's incompetent? So that means he can't be a good manager? Ever? Give over. The football we played when we got in Europe... Got us in Europe. Over 38 games, it's not a fluke! He obviously has some tactical nous about him. Regardless if you win by 6 goals or 1, you still win. No style? I think he does have a style of football. He tends to work hard on defence, playing from the back. 1 striker up top, attacking players around him to provide support. Yes he hasn't got it perfect, but it got us to Europe. It got us in the top 10 and it's getting us results when the whole world is against him. Not bad for someone who hasn't got a clue Now... You say my comment is the most pathetic? Yet you have just said the Newcastle Job is the easiest in the world? Says no manager ever! Ask all that have fallen before him? Easiest job my arse. It's never his fault? So thousands of people creating banners for Pardew out. And protests for Pardew to be sacked, and you say it's never his fault? The problem with you and the majority of our fans is that you think we are a big club. A big club that should be fighting for titles and trophies. Yeah we might break into Europe (which Pardew has done) yeah we might have a decent cup run, which he is also doing, but we will never win titles. Or trophies. And we don't deserve too. And the quicker fans realise that, the better. We sack Pardew and who do we get? Realistically? Moyes? Who worked under similar conditions at Everton and probably wouldn't want to return to that. The fact is, yeah he's not the best manager in the world, never said he was. But for the time being, he's the best he and probably anyone else, could do. Until we get taken over by a middle eastern billionaire who's prepared to splash millions, we will never compete. Never have a high profile manager and never win honours. You talk about Ben Arfa... He came out and said Pardew is a great manager, and he's the right person for Newcastle? So how do you explain that? Someone who has apparently been drove out the club, then comes out and says the manager is great? Cabaye also saying he's one of the best managers he's worked with? It's typical that you give him no praise for the last few results, but he deserves it. The tactics, the decisions and his determination is what the club needs. I'm just so I haven't got it in me to reply. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 No side he picked tonight would have theoretically got him a win. So that point is irrelevant. It's completely contradictory to say he had no part in this tonight with regards to motivation or tactics and by the same token blame him for the same when we get beat. No, but you tend to pick your strongest team to win a game like. Agreed. Nonetheless, he had them motivated, one way or the other. Whether we think that is through his doing is subjective. However, it's the same subjectivity we judge him by when we are doing shit. So all I am saying, is we need a bit balance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 If the club does truly come first then Alan Pardew and Mike Ashley should be a million miles away from it and no amount of one-off wins should mask that. We're sat here gob smacked because we just beat a team West Ham beat a few days ago. Why accept that? These wins aren't "for the sake of the club", they're to the complete detriment of it. Ultimately, all the Ashley hate is simply a platitude. Everyone says it but the vast majority don't really mean it. You can't hate Ashley but support Pardew anyway, not unless there's something wrong with you mentally. He is as much Ashley's man as Kinnear ever was. He props up this regime. If Pardew goes and Ashley suddenly doesn't have a manager who he can use as a willing slave, he has a problem, and may think about washing his hands of a troublesome investment. But let's not think about that. Be a true fan and support the lads and get what you're given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Someone has just commented this on my FB status re:Pardew He's proven over his career that he's incompetent? So that means he can't be a good manager? Ever? Give over. The football we played when we got in Europe... Got us in Europe. Over 38 games, it's not a fluke! He obviously has some tactical nous about him. Regardless if you win by 6 goals or 1, you still win. No style? I think he does have a style of football. He tends to work hard on defence, playing from the back. 1 striker up top, attacking players around him to provide support. Yes he hasn't got it perfect, but it got us to Europe. It got us in the top 10 and it's getting us results when the whole world is against him. Not bad for someone who hasn't got a clue Now... You say my comment is the most pathetic? Yet you have just said the Newcastle Job is the easiest in the world? Says no manager ever! Ask all that have fallen before him? Easiest job my arse. It's never his fault? So thousands of people creating banners for Pardew out. And protests for Pardew to be sacked, and you say it's never his fault? The problem with you and the majority of our fans is that you think we are a big club. A big club that should be fighting for titles and trophies. Yeah we might break into Europe (which Pardew has done) yeah we might have a decent cup run, which he is also doing, but we will never win titles. Or trophies. And we don't deserve too. And the quicker fans realise that, the better. We sack Pardew and who do we get? Realistically? Moyes? Who worked under similar conditions at Everton and probably wouldn't want to return to that. The fact is, yeah he's not the best manager in the world, never said he was. But for the time being, he's the best he and probably anyone else, could do. Until we get taken over by a middle eastern billionaire who's prepared to splash millions, we will never compete. Never have a high profile manager and never win honours. You talk about Ben Arfa... He came out and said Pardew is a great manager, and he's the right person for Newcastle? So how do you explain that? Someone who has apparently been drove out the club, then comes out and says the manager is great? Cabaye also saying he's one of the best managers he's worked with? It's typical that you give him no praise for the last few results, but he deserves it. The tactics, the decisions and his determination is what the club needs. I'm just so I haven't got it in me to reply. :lol: Aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I don't think the team selection for this game specifically should be used as a stick to beat him with, but similarly let's not go claiming he's discovered some revolutionary method at motivating fringe players. He shuffled the deck for the cup game as most managers of any calibre do. By that I mean mediocre long ball specialists. Changed that - Even big Manuel shuffled the deck tonight. He had a better hand too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 If the club does truly come first then Alan Pardew and Mike Ashley should be a million miles away from it and no amount of one-off wins should mask that. We're sat here gob smacked because we just beat a team West Ham beat a few days ago. Why accept that? These wins aren't "for the sake of the club", they're to the complete detriment of it. Ultimately, all the Ashley hate is simply a platitude. Everyone says it but the vast majority don't really mean it. Every win is for the sake of the club. The problem is they're too few and far between for us as fans of a decent sized club. That's to the detriment, not the actual wins. Hating Pardew is just easier because it's a more obvious and easy thing to target. We all dislike Ashley but we cannot hate him because the clubs (and his) finances are all smoke and mirrors. Whereas Pardews stats are all there to see, as SackPardew have proved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 It was interesting that when Ryan Taylor was asked about how he must have appreciated Pardew's support as a manager, even he deflected it to say that the whole staff needed credit. Even more funny when Sissoko scored a wonder goal and Pardew raised his arm like Caesar to accept the credit for another goal from nowhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I still hate him. He sent a team out tonight which realistically had no chance to beat City, he put a couple of first team members in there to say he tried. It backfired on him, the lads he sent out were up for it, their youth and enthusiasm combined with some luck won us the match. Like every result we get we got despite Pardew not because of him. If Man City had have scored from the free kick they had before we scored then his keep it tight and hit them on the break plan would never have taken off, he had no game plan apart from hoping to hit them on the counter. As luck has it worked for us today. Todays result to me shows me 1 key thing, our squad has more potential than Pardew's tactics/management. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Todays result to me shows me 1 key thing, our squad has more potential than Pardew's tactics/management. Might as well say you looked out the window this morning and learned the fucking sky is blue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Someone has just commented this on my FB status re:Pardew He's proven over his career that he's incompetent? So that means he can't be a good manager? Ever? Give over. The football we played when we got in Europe... Got us in Europe. Over 38 games, it's not a fluke! He obviously has some tactical nous about him. Regardless if you win by 6 goals or 1, you still win. No style? I think he does have a style of football. He tends to work hard on defence, playing from the back. 1 striker up top, attacking players around him to provide support. Yes he hasn't got it perfect, but it got us to Europe. It got us in the top 10 and it's getting us results when the whole world is against him. Not bad for someone who hasn't got a clue Now... You say my comment is the most pathetic? Yet you have just said the Newcastle Job is the easiest in the world? Says no manager ever! Ask all that have fallen before him? Easiest job my arse. It's never his fault? So thousands of people creating banners for Pardew out. And protests for Pardew to be sacked, and you say it's never his fault? The problem with you and the majority of our fans is that you think we are a big club. A big club that should be fighting for titles and trophies. Yeah we might break into Europe (which Pardew has done) yeah we might have a decent cup run, which he is also doing, but we will never win titles. Or trophies. And we don't deserve too. And the quicker fans realise that, the better. We sack Pardew and who do we get? Realistically? Moyes? Who worked under similar conditions at Everton and probably wouldn't want to return to that. The fact is, yeah he's not the best manager in the world, never said he was. But for the time being, he's the best he and probably anyone else, could do. Until we get taken over by a middle eastern billionaire who's prepared to splash millions, we will never compete. Never have a high profile manager and never win honours. You talk about Ben Arfa... He came out and said Pardew is a great manager, and he's the right person for Newcastle? So how do you explain that? Someone who has apparently been drove out the club, then comes out and says the manager is great? Cabaye also saying he's one of the best managers he's worked with? It's typical that you give him no praise for the last few results, but he deserves it. The tactics, the decisions and his determination is what the club needs. I'm just so I haven't got it in me to reply. I couldn't help but converse. He's just came out with a classic: It can't get much worse? Nope. Could be Leeds. Or Wolves. Or Nottingham Forest. Zzzzzzzzzzz What is wrong with these people? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 It was interesting that when Ryan Taylor was asked about how he must have appreciated Pardew's support as a manager, even he deflected it to say that the whole staff needed credit. Even more funny when Sissoko scored a wonder goal and Pardew raised his arm like Caesar to accept the credit for another goal from nowhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 whatever else he's definetely managed to put some desire and motivation back in the players, i suspect this is a direct result of the campaign against him and his attempt to "fight back" through hard work etc. so far i'd argue he's got lucky with the teams we've played when we've played them, and also with the players digging him out when he needed it (cisse back from injury, aarons & perez kids out of nowhere thrown on etc.) if he doesn't realise now, for the hundredth fucking time, that his way doesn't work but attacking and scoring goals does then we'll just end up back where we were when the players get sick of it again and stop bailing him out also if he's not starting at least 2-3 of aarons, ameobi, perez & cabella vs. liverpool then we'll know all we need to know about the man as these lads have more or less saved his job i expect him to revert to type oh and plus we were awful vs. leicester and never, ever play well at home under this cunt, his entire strategy is suited for away games of which we've just played 2 very favourable ones Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Steve Wraith somehow made it onto Five Live to defend him just now, his argument being 'who else would work for Ashley' etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Steve Wraith somehow made it onto Five Live to defend him just now, his argument being 'who else would work for Ashley' etc. Same sort of people who work for cellino? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I despise that argument. Similar argument to when a player leaves a club he has no affiliation with to get more money at another club he has no affiliation with. Stupid argument made by stupid people. As for Pardew, he got incredibly lucky last night. Surprised we managed to win considering we didn't have Gouffran's excellent defensive effort or Mike Williamson's set penis routine. It was almost as if they did the opposite of what Pardew told them to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 I wonder what reception he will get on Saturday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 http://www.nufcfans.co.uk/2014/10/video-comical-moment-touchline-sissokos-brilliant-strike/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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