Disco Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Nailed it Brummie. I think the saddest thing for yourself has to be with Villa not important enough anymore for regular discussion that without being bottom of the league or chinning a fan Lambert is golden because 'his hands are tied' or 'did a good job at Norwich, look where they are now'. Our incarnation of the last four years is one of biding time until we go down. Not because the owner is a cunt - he isn't, he has spent a lot of money. The problem is that the owner is two things, uninterested and utterly, utterly incompetent. What is shocking, too, is seeing the gradual wearing down of expectations of the fans. "Maybe we can nick a point at West Ham", that sort of thing. FFS. Honestly, I think I hate almost all our supporters. Passive fucking sheep. In fact, that probably counts for most football supporters full stop these days. I think you'll find it's the best league in the world, so good that 12 teams are battling to stay up and nothing else. Fucking pathetic - getting to the point when I look forward to the bubble bursting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Anyone else feel worse now than two weeks ago? We were on the precipise of getting rid of this c*** and then four wins on the bounce comes along to cement his position. I'm raging here like ffs. That's the thing. Raging vs four wins on the bounce. That's why I am thinking whether I'd like us to win or draw versus lose by 5 tomorrow in terms of the bigger picture. Wanting the team I've supported for 40 years, and which is in trouble, to lose heavily. f***ing hell. yeah, some SUPPORTer you are Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Anyone else feel worse now than two weeks ago? We were on the precipise of getting rid of this cunt and then four wins on the bounce comes along to cement his position. I'm raging here like ffs. I can't fucking believe what's happened. Feel like an asshole being upset that the team has been playing well, but at the same time you get glimpses of what this collection of players could potentially be under a better manager and it's unbelievably frustrating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Nailed it Brummie. I think the saddest thing for yourself has to be with Villa not important enough anymore for regular discussion that without being bottom of the league or chinning a fan Lambert is golden because 'his hands are tied' or 'did a good job at Norwich, look where they are now'. Our incarnation of the last four years is one of biding time until we go down. Not because the owner is a cunt - he isn't, he has spent a lot of money. The problem is that the owner is two things, uninterested and utterly, utterly incompetent. What is shocking, too, is seeing the gradual wearing down of expectations of the fans. "Maybe we can nick a point at West Ham", that sort of thing. FFS. Honestly, I think I hate almost all our supporters. Passive fucking sheep. In fact, that probably counts for most football supporters full stop these days. I think you'll find it's the best league in the world, so good that 12 teams are battling to stay up and nothing else. Fucking pathetic - getting to the point when I look forward to the bubble bursting. When the money just for being in it is so big, and when the gap between those who compete for the CL and those who don't is so big, it just becomes a great mass of clubs who are happy not to get booted off the easy money roundabout of the PL. That's one reason why we have this sort of football management equivalent of eating at Yo Sushi. There's a belt going round and round with utterly fucking mediocre managers on it, the likes of Pardew, Lambert, Bruce, Harry Fucking Redknapp, these people who are basically fucking frauds. They get taken off the belt, do an OK job somewhere for a few years (i.e. not get relegated) then get sacked, get back on the belt, start going round and round again, get taken off again by some other total mug of a chairman. From one million pound a year job to another, and most of them have never even won anything. I don't care about top players and managers getting top money in this league. It isn't the likes of Rooney and Yaya Toure getting 200k a week that worries me, and it isn't the thought of people like Mourinho getting paid obscene amounts of money, it is the huge numbers of truly mediocre players on 40k a week, and managers who are basically just media figureheads without the first idea of coaching or actual management, picking up 20 or 30k a week on long contracts, getting sacked, then getting their contracts paid up. So many utterly shit "professionals" just on a never ending easy ride. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Anyone else feel worse now than two weeks ago? We were on the precipise of getting rid of this cunt and then four wins on the bounce comes along to cement his position. I'm raging here like ffs. That's the thing. Raging vs four wins on the bounce. That's why I am thinking whether I'd like us to win or draw versus lose by 5 tomorrow in terms of the bigger picture. Wanting the team I've supported for 40 years, and which is in trouble, to lose heavily. Fucking hell. I'm all about the bigger picture that's why I am begging for an end to Ashley's control over our club. If the start to this season has shown me anything its that deep down I know that until Ashley sells up I can never get back to enjoying my football club as I have done for the past 20 years. We could beat the top six on the bounce but it means little to me because there is no heart in the club anymore. In the short term I was certain that 2 more defeats would have seen the back of Pardew and that's what makes this run all the more galling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Nailed it Brummie. I think the saddest thing for yourself has to be with Villa not important enough anymore for regular discussion that without being bottom of the league or chinning a fan Lambert is golden because 'his hands are tied' or 'did a good job at Norwich, look where they are now'. Our incarnation of the last four years is one of biding time until we go down. Not because the owner is a cunt - he isn't, he has spent a lot of money. The problem is that the owner is two things, uninterested and utterly, utterly incompetent. What is shocking, too, is seeing the gradual wearing down of expectations of the fans. "Maybe we can nick a point at West Ham", that sort of thing. FFS. Honestly, I think I hate almost all our supporters. Passive fucking sheep. In fact, that probably counts for most football supporters full stop these days. I think you'll find it's the best league in the world, so good that 12 teams are battling to stay up and nothing else. Fucking pathetic - getting to the point when I look forward to the bubble bursting. When the money just for being in it is so big, and when the gap between those who compete for the CL and those who don't is so big, it just becomes a great mass of clubs who are happy not to get booted off the easy money roundabout of the PL. That's one reason why we have this sort of football management equivalent of eating at Yo Sushi. There's a belt going round and round with utterly fucking mediocre managers on it, the likes of Pardew, Lambert, Bruce, Harry Fucking Redknapp, these people who are basically fucking frauds. They get taken off the belt, do an OK job somewhere for a few years (i.e. not get relegated) then get sacked, get back on the belt, start going round and round again, get taken off again by some other total mug of a chairman. From one million pound a year job to another, and most of them have never even won anything. I don't care about top players and managers getting top money in this league. It isn't the likes of Rooney and Yaya Toure getting 200k a week that worries me, and it isn't the thought of people like Mourinho getting paid obscene amounts of money, it is the huge numbers of truly mediocre players on 40k a week, and managers who are basically just media figureheads without the first idea of coaching or actual management, picking up 20 or 30k a week on long contracts, getting sacked, then getting their contracts paid up. So many utterly shit "professionals" just on a never ending easy ride. couldn't agree more fella. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Pardew is shite and I hope he falls under a combine harvester ASAP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Anyone else feel worse now than two weeks ago? We were on the precipise of getting rid of this cunt and then four wins on the bounce comes along to cement his position. I'm raging here like ffs. That's the thing. Raging vs four wins on the bounce. That's why I am thinking whether I'd like us to win or draw versus lose by 5 tomorrow in terms of the bigger picture. Wanting the team I've supported for 40 years, and which is in trouble, to lose heavily. Fucking hell. I'm all about the bigger picture that's why I am begging for an end to Ashley's control over our club. If the start to this season has shown me anything its that deep down I know that until Ashley sells up I can never get back to enjoying my football club as I have done for the past 20 years. We could beat the top six on the bounce but it means little to me because there is no heart in the club anymore. In the short term I was certain that 2 more defeats would have seen the back of Pardew and that's what makes this run all the more galling. I feel your pain pedro. Is anyone labouring under the delusion that even if he stayed on this run and continued to climb the table, if a European spot was within reach, that he/they wouldn't either nobble the squad in January or just basically start throwing games? The chances of this cunt qualifying for Europe and putting his inability to manage a club in midweek under the spotlight again is zero. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Nailed it Brummie. I think the saddest thing for yourself has to be with Villa not important enough anymore for regular discussion that without being bottom of the league or chinning a fan Lambert is golden because 'his hands are tied' or 'did a good job at Norwich, look where they are now'. Our incarnation of the last four years is one of biding time until we go down. Not because the owner is a cunt - he isn't, he has spent a lot of money. The problem is that the owner is two things, uninterested and utterly, utterly incompetent. What is shocking, too, is seeing the gradual wearing down of expectations of the fans. "Maybe we can nick a point at West Ham", that sort of thing. FFS. Honestly, I think I hate almost all our supporters. Passive fucking sheep. In fact, that probably counts for most football supporters full stop these days. I think you'll find it's the best league in the world, so good that 12 teams are battling to stay up and nothing else. Fucking pathetic - getting to the point when I look forward to the bubble bursting. When the money just for being in it is so big, and when the gap between those who compete for the CL and those who don't is so big, it just becomes a great mass of clubs who are happy not to get booted off the easy money roundabout of the PL. That's one reason why we have this sort of football management equivalent of eating at Yo Sushi. There's a belt going round and round with utterly fucking mediocre managers on it, the likes of Pardew, Lambert, Bruce, Harry Fucking Redknapp, these people who are basically fucking frauds. They get taken off the belt, do an OK job somewhere for a few years (i.e. not get relegated) then get sacked, get back on the belt, start going round and round again, get taken off again by some other total mug of a chairman. From one million pound a year job to another, and most of them have never even won anything. I don't care about top players and managers getting top money in this league. It isn't the likes of Rooney and Yaya Toure getting 200k a week that worries me, and it isn't the thought of people like Mourinho getting paid obscene amounts of money, it is the huge numbers of truly mediocre players on 40k a week, and managers who are basically just media figureheads without the first idea of coaching or actual management, picking up 20 or 30k a week on long contracts, getting sacked, then getting their contracts paid up. So many utterly shit "professionals" just on a never ending easy ride. So many Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Anyone else feel worse now than two weeks ago? We were on the precipise of getting rid of this c*** and then four wins on the bounce comes along to cement his position. I'm raging here like ffs. That's the thing. Raging vs four wins on the bounce. That's why I am thinking whether I'd like us to win or draw versus lose by 5 tomorrow in terms of the bigger picture. Wanting the team I've supported for 40 years, and which is in trouble, to lose heavily. f***ing hell. yeah, some SUPPORTer you are I know it isn't an easy think to come to terms with, I've spent enough time thinking about it myself, but: Lost 5 games in a row, fail to score in any of them Beat Spurs That sequence then sets us up for another 5 game losing streak being acceptable because we got one good result. One match in the wider scheme of things means nothing. i don't want the utter, utter mediocrity our chairman and manager think are OK to go on any more. What kind of supporter is our chairman if he thinks failing to score for nine hours is acceptable? I wouldn't want to have one of my fingers cut off, either, but if I thought it'd stop disease from spreading to the rest of my body, I'd lop the fucker off myself. I absolutely guarantee you, if we keep this manager, we will finish 15th or below AGAIN this season. And he'll still be our manager next season, even if we get relegated. Who the fuck would want that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Pardew is shite and I hope he falls under a combine harvester ASAP. *wine through nostrils* Very good. Particularly like the fact you've given it enough thought to decide on a specific form of destructive farm machinery for him to fall under. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crayola Kid Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Anyone else feel worse now than two weeks ago? We were on the precipise of getting rid of this c*** and then four wins on the bounce comes along to cement his position. I'm raging here like ffs. That's the thing. Raging vs four wins on the bounce. That's why I am thinking whether I'd like us to win or draw versus lose by 5 tomorrow in terms of the bigger picture. Wanting the team I've supported for 40 years, and which is in trouble, to lose heavily. f***ing hell. yeah, some SUPPORTer you are I know it isn't an easy think to come to terms with, I've spent enough time thinking about it myself, but: Lost 5 games in a row, fail to score in any of them Beat Spurs That sequence then sets us up for another 5 game losing streak being acceptable because we got one good result. One match in the wider scheme of things means nothing. i don't want the utter, utter mediocrity our chairman and manager think are OK to go on any more. What kind of supporter is our chairman if he thinks failing to score for nine hours is acceptable? I wouldn't want to have one of my fingers cut off, either, but if I thought it'd stop disease from spreading to the rest of my body, I'd lop the f***er off myself. I absolutely guarantee you, if we keep this manager, we will finish 15th or below AGAIN this season. And he'll still be our manager next season, even if we get relegated. Who the f*** would want that? Saw a stat today that rams home how badly villa are doing. I know he's incredible, but it's now true that Ronaldo has scored 20 times himself since Villa last scored. It took a lot of getting my head around, and I even checked it to be sure. Since your last goal, 13th sep, CR7 has 20 Says lots about him, but lots about you lot, too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Saw a stat today that rams home how badly villa are doing. I know he's incredible, but it's now true that Ronaldo has scored 20 times himself since Villa last scored. It took a lot of getting my head around, and I even checked it to be sure. Since your last goal, 13th sep, CR7 has 20 Says lots about him, but lots about you lot, too That Ronaldo stat is absolute bollocks. It is actually 21. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Anyone else feel worse now than two weeks ago? We were on the precipise of getting rid of this cunt and then four wins on the bounce comes along to cement his position. I'm raging here like ffs. I can't fucking believe what's happened. Feel like an asshole being upset that the team has been playing well, but at the same time you get glimpses of what this collection of players could potentially be under a better manager and it's unbelievably frustrating. Exactly! I had an argument with wor lass tonight just because she even mentioned the result! Think about that for a second.....I a Newcastle fan had an argument with my lass cause she mentioned that we had beaten Liverpool! I'm speechless that this scenario has become reality. This result in any other year would have seen her immediately pinned down and her back doors smashed the fuck to bits.... Instead she's fucked off out with her mates and I've spent my Saturday night alone watching the X Factor and eating an Iceland curry. Its the absolute pits. Fuck you Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted November 1, 2014 Share Posted November 1, 2014 Anyone else feel worse now than two weeks ago? We were on the precipise of getting rid of this cunt and then four wins on the bounce comes along to cement his position. I'm raging here like ffs. That's the thing. Raging vs four wins on the bounce. That's why I am thinking whether I'd like us to win or draw versus lose by 5 tomorrow in terms of the bigger picture. Wanting the team I've supported for 40 years, and which is in trouble, to lose heavily. Fucking hell. I'm all about the bigger picture that's why I am begging for an end to Ashley's control over our club. If the start to this season has shown me anything its that deep down I know that until Ashley sells up I can never get back to enjoying my football club as I have done for the past 20 years. We could beat the top six on the bounce but it means little to me because there is no heart in the club anymore. In the short term I was certain that 2 more defeats would have seen the back of Pardew and that's what makes this run all the more galling. I feel your pain pedro. Is anyone labouring under the delusion that even if he stayed on this run and continued to climb the table, if a European spot was within reach, that he/they wouldn't either nobble the squad in January or just basically start throwing games? The chances of this cunt qualifying for Europe and putting his inability to manage a club in midweek under the spotlight again is zero. I felt with his team selection at Manchester City that he was trying to manoevre a defeat to tie in with club policy re tbe Cups. I wouldn't put anything past this regime, not even deliberately doing things to detriment the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crayola Kid Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Saw a stat today that rams home how badly villa are doing. I know he's incredible, but it's now true that Ronaldo has scored 20 times himself since Villa last scored. It took a lot of getting my head around, and I even checked it to be sure. Since your last goal, 13th sep, CR7 has 20 Says lots about him, but lots about you lot, too That Ronaldo stat is absolute bollocks. It is actually 21. U sure? Either way, fuckin hell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Saw a stat today that rams home how badly villa are doing. I know he's incredible, but it's now true that Ronaldo has scored 20 times himself since Villa last scored. It took a lot of getting my head around, and I even checked it to be sure. Since your last goal, 13th sep, CR7 has 20 Says lots about him, but lots about you lot, too That Ronaldo stat is absolute bollocks. It is actually 21. Since Villa last scored, Alan Pardew has won 5 games. He'd won 5 in the previous 9 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Don't think for a nanosecond I don't get your argument, because I absolutely do, and I have been mentally driving myself nuts thinking about it. However, Lambert doesn't deserve my support. I don't support Paul Lambert, I support Aston Villa. Right now, I firmly believe the worst thing for Aston Villa is the continued management of Paul Lambert, a man who has broken every single record for shitness this club has ever had. This is the man who won fewer home games in a season than any other manager in our 139 year history. That includes the early days of the league when we'd only play about 10 home games, too. Then the next season, he broke his own record again. Those who remember my ramblings at the end of his first season will recall that I, and most other Villa fans, was totally behind him even after his first train wreck of a season. Since then I've seen ineptitude of the absolutely highest order. I've seen a manager who reminds me hugely of Billy McNeill - a manager who quite clearly was not only incompetent, he didn't care. A man who relegated two teams in one season, and Lambert looks worse. We are going nowhere under this man but down. What the lads and the club needs is to be rid of him. I entirely get your point (although, the SUPPORTer thing is a bit sledgehammer, mind), it is a very difficult thing to get your head around, as I said, I hate finding myself thinking like this, but I just do. I do not support Paul Lambert or Randy Lerner, I support Aston Villa, and I want the best for the club, which has been demonstrated very clearly to mean moving this manager on. Oh, and you know what the most depressing thing is? The bloke is bulletproof. Absolutely fucking bulletproof. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Spudil fishing for bites further afield. Football in the North East is reflective of our position in the UK as a whole. An afterthought. Newcastle and Sunderland have the 3rd and 4th biggest stadiums in the country, easily fillable every week if we were any good, and yet we both treat mid-table like the Promised Land, gazing longingly at Everton and Spurs. They're even more of a disgrace than we are, with far less ambition than even our fans. Fuck all will to succeed in our region, we've nearly always been shit (and they always have) so we're generally content with continuing the trend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Absolutely gay as fuck, but I love football fans like Brummie, they're the kind of people who stop me from just packing packing in all together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Saw a stat today that rams home how badly villa are doing. I know he's incredible, but it's now true that Ronaldo has scored 20 times himself since Villa last scored. It took a lot of getting my head around, and I even checked it to be sure. Since your last goal, 13th sep, CR7 has 20 Says lots about him, but lots about you lot, too That Ronaldo stat is absolute bollocks. It is actually 21. Since Villa last scored, Alan Pardew has won 5 games. He'd won 5 in the previous 9 months. Obviously we need Villa to start scoring some fucking goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Top posts Brummie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crayola Kid Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Spudil fishing for bites further afield. Football in the North East is reflective of our position in the UK as a whole. An afterthought. Newcastle and Sunderland have the 3rd and 4th biggest stadiums in the country, easily fillable every week if we were any good, and yet we both treat mid-table like the Promised Land, gazing longingly at Everton and Spurs. They're even more of a disgrace than we are, with far less ambition than even our fans. f*** all will to succeed in our region, we've nearly always been s*** (and they always have) so we're generally content with continuing the trend. It's less about attendance figures than matchday income (and beyond that other commercial income/sponsorship). We are far from 3rd or 4th in matchday income, and that surely means more than bodies through the gates? That isnt intended to excuse any lack of ambition, but just check out how much spurs take into the tills when they play a home match, and explain our advantage in having a much bigger crowd? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Top posts Brummie One of the best reasoned posts about the sorry state of football in the modern SKY wankfest era I have read fo ages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 What I like most about brummie is that he's starting to remind me of the Jack Flash of 2 years ago. He's fast approaching my absolute peak of hatred. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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