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Pardew is the worst manager I've witnessed in the 20-odd years I've supported us, not least for the awful results, the disgusting football, insane substitutions, watching our best players rot on the bench, insane amount of bullshit drivel, lies and propaganda... mediocre my fucking arse, he was responsible for the strongest, longest, most painful stint of irrational hatred I've ever experienced and even with this gibbering idiot in charge I thank all the gods this rat faced, narcissistic prize prick has nothing to do with our club any more.

 

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Pardew's a poor manager, but all of that was exacerbated by his unsackability. There was never a time you felt he was under pressure, despite being every bit as shit as people who otherwise got the bullet. That's why I hated him, not so much for his incompetence, but because it seemed impossible that he'd ever leave and that things would therefore get better.

 

In the end, he still didn't get sacked. He wasn't the worst manager ever, but he clearly wasn't good enough. And the longer he occupied the dugout, the more depressing things got. We got a glimmer of hope with him leaving, but it now looks quite possible that Carver will just carry on where Pardew left off - being shit and unsackable.

 

It's the lack of hope that kills you.

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Pardew had a much better team than the sack of arse holes we had under Allardyce as well. I didn't like Allardyce but it was easier then knowing that shit wouldn't be stood for, now the crowd quaffs it down with pride.

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Pardew was complicit with everything bad which happened while he was here to such an extent that he would back the club (Ashley and Llambias)  in public.  That alone puts him in a shit league of his own.

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Was ranting and raving away to my sister's bf (Arsenal fan) about the state of Newcastle. I said we might not be the worst team in the league, but could he tell me a single other club that actively scoffs at success, purely running the place as a business.

 

"Arsenal," he says.

 

Sigh.

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Was ranting and raving away to my sister's bf (Arsenal fan) about the state of Newcastle. I said we might not be the worst team in the league, but could he tell me a single other club that actively scoffs at success, purely running the place as a business.

 

"Arsenal," he says.

 

Sigh.

 

Have experienced the same. Had a long argument with an Irish Liverpool supporting colleague about how bad Pardew was only to be told 'No-one was as bad as (four months) Hodgson.' The delusion of people man.

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Was ranting and raving away to my sister's bf (Arsenal fan) about the state of Newcastle. I said we might not be the worst team in the league, but could he tell me a single other club that actively scoffs at success, purely running the place as a business.

 

"Arsenal," he says.

 

Sigh.

 

Arsenal are hugely expensive to watch, have won next to nowt in a decade and the manager is unsackable in a way that just wouldn't happen at Manu, city or Chelsea. If you're a ST holder there and you see nothing really changing yet the club still performing very well financially then I think you've got room for complaint. The lesson for me of the Pardew years is we shouldn't really tell another set of fans how to feel about their club, unless you're living it you don't really understand iyam

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Arsenal are underachieving and over-prioritising profit and loss in a sense but the obvious response to that idiot is to point out they won a cup less than a year ago and are likely to win one again this season.

 

 

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Arsenal are underachieving and over-prioritising profit and loss in a sense but the obvious response to that idiot is to point out they won a cup less than a year ago and are likely to win one again this season.

 

 

 

The way they are positioned, they should be challenging for league titles & going deep into the CL. They've been under achieving for a good while. Winning a couple trophies is the bare minimum they should be looking at achieving.

 

JFK was terrible.

Shearer was terrible.

Dalglish terrible.

 

Allardyce, Pardew and co. in that pile of "not good enough". Pardew might have felt worse because of his Teflon Don status.

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What was it, a 9 place drop in the league? A 180 in playing style. It wasn't all his fault but he along with Souness were responsible for the biggest drops in performance our side has ever had.

 

For me, Pardew is a 4 year Roeder/Big Sam.

 

Dalglish was dog shit, but the football was a world away from the crap that Pardew served up. The only thing Pardew has over Dalglish is that Dalglish was allowed to buy crap players wholesale and Pardew wasn't.

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Dalglish worse than Pardew. :lol: I've seen it all now. I hated Dalglish, but Jesus Christ.

Isn't he the only other manager to steer us into a CL spot in our entire history?

 

Now that was built off Keegan's hard work. It was Keegan's team and he only managed that team for 6 months to get them 2nd again. I wouldn't have that near the 5th season.

 

He then sold said team and replaced him with his old mates from Liverpool & Stuart Pearce is the most unforgivable spree in history next to Souness selling the Bobby side and replacing them with Michael Owen, Boumsong and Albert Luque.

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What was it, a 9 place drop in the league? A 180 in playing style. It wasn't all his fault but he along with Souness were responsible for the biggest drops in performance our side has ever had.

 

For me, Pardew is a 4 year Roeder/Big Sam.

 

Dalglish was dog s***, but the football was a world away from the crap that Pardew served up. The only thing Pardew has over Dalglish is that Dalglish was allowed to buy crap players wholesale and Pardew wasn't.

Well he did takeover a title challenging side.
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I can't believe that I'm being put in a position where I feel the need to stick up for Kenny Dalglish. :lol:

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