Guest firetotheworks Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I don't believe in this whole Ashley not caring thing as well. Of course he doesn't care what you say and think on one hand if the other is also giving him money. Stop giving him money/stop going and things change. No one believes that it'll make any difference though, so you go and you give him money and it definitely means that things won't change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I want Newcastle to win every game, I must be a Pardew sympathiser. I hate Pardew but I don't think for a second he is on the verge of being sacked . Perhaps if we dont meet our target at the end of the season, which is probably a top 10 finish. Ashley doesnt care if people boo and he doesn't care what people think or want. I presume those who want us to lose dont attend home games anymore? I don't go anymore because of him. For that reason alone I want us to lose every game, so that I can go back to doing what I've always done. Do you think most Newcastle fans want their team to lose? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 When did I say I think we can win and Pardew still get sacked? You said "You can want Pardew out and still want Newcastle to win." How does that work? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memphis Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 If you lived in a crumbling shithole of a house, and the only way to get the insurance money to buy a lovely new one was to see the shithole burned down, you'd cheer every time you saw a flame. You might even try to burn the fucker down yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I want Newcastle to win every game, I must be a Pardew sympathiser. I hate Pardew but I don't think for a second he is on the verge of being sacked . Perhaps if we dont meet our target at the end of the season, which is probably a top 10 finish. Ashley doesnt care if people boo and he doesn't care what people think or want. I presume those who want us to lose dont attend home games anymore? I don't go anymore because of him. For that reason alone I want us to lose every game, so that I can go back to doing what I've always done. Do you think most Newcastle fans want their team to lose? Nope, and that's the problem. If they were, and were vocal about it, change would happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 If you lived in a crumbling shithole of a house, and the only way to get the insurance money to buy a lovely new one was to see the shithole burned down, you'd cheer every time you saw a flame. You might even try to burn the f***er down yourself. Decent analogy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I'd say most of our fans only really care about the league table due to them only ever seeing highlights and the odd televised game. It's the people who go every week and voluntarily sit through this shit who should be questioned, though I suspect "It's what you do, isn't it?" would be the answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 When did I say I think we can win and Pardew still get sacked? You said "You can want Pardew out and still want Newcastle to win." How does that work? So if you don't rate a manager at your football club you should start supporting the opposition. Fuck off man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 When did I say I think we can win and Pardew still get sacked? You said "You can want Pardew out and still want Newcastle to win." How does that work? I have this thing in my head that allows me to hold more than one view on separate issues. I wanted Sunderland to lose and Di Canio to stay. Blowing your mind now, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 If you lived in a crumbling shithole of a house, and the only way to get the insurance money to buy a lovely new one was to see the shithole burned down, you'd cheer every time you saw a flame. You might even try to burn the f***er down yourself. Decent analogy. Just ran out with a jerry can and did this. Doesn't work in a rented property for anyone thinking about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I want Newcastle to win every game, I must be a Pardew sympathiser. I hate Pardew but I don't think for a second he is on the verge of being sacked . Perhaps if we dont meet our target at the end of the season, which is probably a top 10 finish. Ashley doesnt care if people boo and he doesn't care what people think or want. I presume those who want us to lose dont attend home games anymore? I don't go anymore because of him. For that reason alone I want us to lose every game, so that I can go back to doing what I've always done. Do you think most Newcastle fans want their team to lose? Can't say I'm that arsed what most fans think tbh. The majority have embraced mediocrity with open arms and I've got no time for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 When did I say I think we can win and Pardew still get sacked? You said "You can want Pardew out and still want Newcastle to win." How does that work? So if you don't rate a manager at your football club you should start supporting the opposition. Fuck off man. "don't rate a manager" aye that's it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 When did I say I think we can win and Pardew still get sacked? You said "You can want Pardew out and still want Newcastle to win." How does that work? So if you don't rate a manager at your football club you should start supporting the opposition. f*** off man. How is that in ANY WAY what he said? 'don't rate' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I want Newcastle to win every game, I must be a Pardew sympathiser. I hate Pardew but I don't think for a second he is on the verge of being sacked . Perhaps if we dont meet our target at the end of the season, which is probably a top 10 finish. Ashley doesnt care if people boo and he doesn't care what people think or want. I presume those who want us to lose dont attend home games anymore? I don't go anymore because of him. For that reason alone I want us to lose every game, so that I can go back to doing what I've always done. Do you think most Newcastle fans want their team to lose? Can't say I'm that arsed what most fans think tbh. The majority have embraced mediocrity with open arms and I've got no time for it. Was just interested to see where you think you stand. Interesting to see how people view themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 When did I say I think we can win and Pardew still get sacked? You said "You can want Pardew out and still want Newcastle to win." How does that work? I have this thing in my head that allows me to hold more than one view on separate issues. I wanted Sunderland to lose and Di Canio to stay. Blowing your mind now, right? you mean exactly like the mackems would like us to lose and pardew to stay for eternity so they can keep beating us with embarrassing ease? ok then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I have this thing in my head that allows me to hold more than one view on separate issues. I wanted Sunderland to lose and Di Canio to stay. Blowing your mind now, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 So if you don't rate a manager at your football club you should start supporting the opposition. f*** off man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Try finding a Newcastle 'fan' or any other fan, for that matter, ouside this forum who wants their team to lose. Its embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 When did I say I think we can win and Pardew still get sacked? You said "You can want Pardew out and still want Newcastle to win." How does that work? I have this thing in my head that allows me to hold more than one view on separate issues. I wanted Sunderland to lose and Di Canio to stay. Blowing your mind now, right? Exactly how are wanting us to win and wanting Pardew out 'separate issues'? They're intrinsically related and that's exactly why your way of thinking makes no sense. Your example makes no sense. You wanted Di Canio to stay BECAUSE it means that Sunderland would lose more often. How can you want Pardew to leave yet want us to win. You want him to leave BECAUSE we lose. They're different things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Try finding a Newcastle 'fan' or any other fan, for that matter, ouside this forum who wants their team to lose. Its embarrassing. To me embracing mediocrity is embarrassing, especially for a set of fans that were once so ambitious/deluded (depending on your point of view) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Try finding a Newcastle 'fan' or any other fan, for that matter, ouside this forum who wants their team to lose. Its embarrassing. It's a weird one I don't think I actively want to use win or lose at the moment. I can't quite bring myself to cheer the opposition scoring (and I'd probably get kicked in at the ground) but I'm certainly not arsed when they do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Reading this makes me miss the match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I still want us to win, and I celebrate our goals a bit, I just don't have the same feeling of dispair when we concede or lose. Mainly because we don't really want to acheive anything though, not so much because of Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Try finding a Newcastle 'fan' or any other fan, for that matter, ouside this forum who wants their team to lose. Its embarrassing. People away from the forum do want us to lose, they want us to lose because they feel that we have more chance of getting rid of our shitty manager and they feel that we'll have a better chance of winning without our shitty manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Try finding a Newcastle 'fan' or any other fan, for that matter, ouside this forum who wants their team to lose. Its embarrassing. Again we want Pardew out and in order to do this we must lose. I'm not sure what's so hard to grasp about "short term pain long gain" even if this isn't guaranteed the fact it contains hope is enough for some of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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