Rémi Garde and the case of the missing art galleries

[Unbelievable]

On the managers can't move now comments, it won't be easy as just paying up although we clearly have no plans to do that.

 

But there will be some options who wouldn't come now even if money was no object, like De Boer for example I can't see him leaving in the middle of the season even if Ajax Ok'ed it.

 

In theory the options available in the summer will be greater, that's just common sense. But I really doubt that that will actually be the case, he's just saying again what he thinks we would want to hear.

 

 

 

Would De Boer stay at Ajax if Barcelona came calling? Of course he wouldn't. He will not even be remotely interested in us. I can't wait until the summer where we will court all these top managers, offering them peanuts and a straitjacket manager role at a club deprived of ambition and investment, only to end up with Carver for the remaining duration of his contract.

[BONTEMPI]

Anybody falling for this shite needs shooting.

 

Time to hit them where it hurts! In the pocket. I'd gladly take relegation if it meant this fat fuck and his minions do one.

 

 

[mrmojorisin75]

While there's obviously a lot of shit there in that Charnley thing he's at least been pretty clear here:

 

"First and foremost, they have to be a good coach and with a track record of developing players and giving young players a chance is important.

 

For me, style of play is important. How they conduct themselves is also important as the head coach will play a key part in how the club is perceived through his conduct on and off the field."

 

He's basically describing the anti-Pardew there. Actions speak louder than words mind.

 

 

 

And that's why it makes no sense whatsoever that they had such a lob on for Pardew. Walking contradiction.

Yeah you're right, if you took out the start of the interview where he's praising AP etc. then the rest of it reads like a criticism of him actually.

[Exiled in Texas]

Frank is his name but his first name, I was trying to tell you all who it was without telling you. How the f*** anyone didn't come to the conclusion that it's Rijkaard is beyond me.

 

Should have checked dot in the 'i' of the swimming certificate.

 

  Whoosh to the young kiddos on here - who won't be able to figure out that reference

[Mole_Toonfan]

On the managers can't move now comments, it won't be easy as just paying up although we clearly have no plans to do that.

 

But there will be some options who wouldn't come now even if money was no object, like De Boer for example I can't see him leaving in the middle of the season even if Ajax Ok'ed it.

 

In theory the options available in the summer will be greater, that's just common sense. But I really doubt that that will actually be the case, he's just saying again what he thinks we would want to hear.

 

 

 

Would De Boer stay at Ajax if Barcelona came calling? Of course he wouldn't. He will not even be remotely interested in us. I can't wait until the summer where we will court all these top managers, offering them peanuts and a straitjacket manager role at a club deprived of ambition and investment, only to end up with Carver for the remaining duration of his contract.

 

That's not what I'm saying, just saying some managers wouldn't leave a job middle of the season no matter what and especially for a team on the slide in a new country.

 

That part of Charnley's bs is true, even if the reasons behind it were not exactly honest.

[Guest Gino14]

As if it's really a thing where we'd hate anything he said. If he came out and said we were going to appoint and support a new manager imminently in this transfer window nobody would have been harsh. Instead the bullet points from the interview are:

 

- Pardew was never in danger of losing his job.

- We're so useless we had no backup plans in place.

- No need to worry about the manager effecting the transfer window because we won't buy anyone anyway.

- We might sell someone important.

- New manager might not be appointed till the summer.

- We've not even considered the threat of awful football performance and relegation.

 

How could anyone read that article and have a positive response? Reading between the lines it confirms every fear any sensible fan has about the club.

 

Club.

 

Fair points. These guys don't seem to want a football club, at least not one reflecting the pride of the city; It's all fairly sensible stuff if he was addressing an AGM, but as a passionate rally to the supporters it's f***ing woeful.

 

In my opinion we would have been playing in a blue, white and red strip plastered with Sports Direct logos if Mike Ashley thought he could get away with it. The stadium name change fiasco shows he has no intent on letting the fans hold onto the history. The man has no soul and no empathy for how to care about what the people he's supposed to care about want. It gets clearer with every statement that we're a big TV advertising hoarding that needs its maintenance and it means little else to him

 

Just another Sports Direct shop floor. The new Pardew is a window dresser charged with making the cheap tat Graham Carr brings in look good enough to turn a Saudi princes head.

 

If only it would attract a new owner like that. It seems like we missed out on that era of Football. Now that FFP has made Football somewhat of a closed shop at the top, nobody can do what Man City and PSG have recently done. That's made buying clubs like ours a suddenly much less attractive prospect.

[toon25]

While there's obviously a lot of shit there in that Charnley thing he's at least been pretty clear here:

 

"First and foremost, they have to be a good coach and with a track record of developing players and giving young players a chance is important.

 

For me, style of play is important. How they conduct themselves is also important as the head coach will play a key part in how the club is perceived through his conduct on and off the field."

 

He's basically describing the anti-Pardew there. Actions speak louder than words mind.

 

They're basically looking for someone daft enough to operate within the narrow constraints they'll give them. Style of play, etc is a distant secondary consideration.

 

[Segun Oluwaniyi]

While there's obviously a lot of s*** there in that Charnley thing he's at least been pretty clear here:

 

"First and foremost, they have to be a good coach and with a track record of developing players and giving young players a chance is important.

 

For me, style of play is important. How they conduct themselves is also important as the head coach will play a key part in how the club is perceived through his conduct on and off the field."

 

He's basically describing the anti-Pardew there. Actions speak louder than words mind.

 

They're basically looking for someone daft enough to operate within the narrow constraints they'll give them. Style of play, etc is a distant secondary consideration.

 

What constraints? If you mean little control over transfers and your best players being sold to bigger clubs, this is ~99% of manager positions, especially if they are looking to France as rumoured (though rumours are often incorrect).

[mrmojorisin75]

While there's obviously a lot of s*** there in that Charnley thing he's at least been pretty clear here:

 

"First and foremost, they have to be a good coach and with a track record of developing players and giving young players a chance is important.

 

For me, style of play is important. How they conduct themselves is also important as the head coach will play a key part in how the club is perceived through his conduct on and off the field."

 

He's basically describing the anti-Pardew there. Actions speak louder than words mind.

 

They're basically looking for someone daft enough to operate within the narrow constraints they'll give them. Style of play, etc is a distant secondary consideration.

 

What constraints? If you mean little control over transfers and your best players being sold to bigger clubs, this is ~99% of manager positions, especially if they are looking to France as rumoured (though rumours are often incorrect).

Nah, like ALL HIS BEST PLAYERS GETTING SOLD ALL THE TIME marra

[afar]

While there's obviously a lot of s*** there in that Charnley thing he's at least been pretty clear here:

 

"First and foremost, they have to be a good coach and with a track record of developing players and giving young players a chance is important.

 

For me, style of play is important. How they conduct themselves is also important as the head coach will play a key part in how the club is perceived through his conduct on and off the field."

 

He's basically describing the anti-Pardew there. Actions speak louder than words mind.

 

They're basically looking for someone daft enough to operate within the narrow constraints they'll give them. Style of play, etc is a distant secondary consideration.

 

What constraints? If you mean little control over transfers and your best players being sold to bigger clubs, this is ~99% of manager positions, especially if they are looking to France as rumoured (though rumours are often incorrect).

Nah, like ALL HIS BEST PLAYERS GETTING SOLD ALL THE TIME marra

 

Not sure if you are serious here MrM but I'm not entirely convinced about this statement tbh. So who have we sold, the list really isn't that long and it's not ALL our best players:

 

(not going to take every example here like for example Best, Duff, Nolan, Barton, Routledge, Forster, Simpson etc. because these deals made sense)

 

Bassong - Had a great one season we got 8m for him, we had just been relegated, in the end proved great business because he was s**** after he left us.

Carroll - We got 35 million for the player, still to this day think that was a great deal for a oft injured player who had proved himself for half a season in the PL.

Cabaye - 20 million for our best player, who clearly wanted to leave after going in the huff in the summer because we knocked back Arsenal. The only thing wrong with this deal was we never replaced him.

Debuchy  - 10 million for a player that been out most of the season and getting close to 30 looks pretty darn good now especially when we replaced him with a quality player who is much younger and for half the price, great business.

 

That's all I can think of, 4 players, in all the time he's been here. I'm not trying to stick up for Ashley here but this line that gets thrown around isn't really backed up, and all really goes back to Carroll because he was a young Geordie lad and Cabaye because we never replaced our best player.

 

I agree with Baba, there's no constraints really here that other managers in other parts of the world don't live with on a daily basis. 

[mrmojorisin75]

While there's obviously a lot of s*** there in that Charnley thing he's at least been pretty clear here:

 

"First and foremost, they have to be a good coach and with a track record of developing players and giving young players a chance is important.

 

For me, style of play is important. How they conduct themselves is also important as the head coach will play a key part in how the club is perceived through his conduct on and off the field."

 

He's basically describing the anti-Pardew there. Actions speak louder than words mind.

 

They're basically looking for someone daft enough to operate within the narrow constraints they'll give them. Style of play, etc is a distant secondary consideration.

 

What constraints? If you mean little control over transfers and your best players being sold to bigger clubs, this is ~99% of manager positions, especially if they are looking to France as rumoured (though rumours are often incorrect).

Nah, like ALL HIS BEST PLAYERS GETTING SOLD ALL THE TIME marra

 

Not sure if you are serious here MrM but I'm not entirely convinced about this statement tbh. So who have we sold, the list really isn't that long and it's not ALL our best players:

 

(not going to take every example here like for example Best, Duff, Nolan, Barton, Routledge, Forster, Simpson etc. because these deals made sense)

 

Bassong - Had a great one season we got 8m for him, we had just been relegated, in the end proved great business because he was s**** after he left us.

Carroll - We got 35 million for the player, still to this day think that was a great deal for a oft injured player who had proved himself for half a season in the PL.

Cabaye - 20 million for our best player, who clearly wanted to leave after going in the huff in the summer because we knocked back Arsenal. The only thing wrong with this deal was we never replaced him.

Debuchy  - 10 million for a player that been out most of the season and getting close to 30 looks pretty darn good now especially when we replaced him with a quality player who is much younger and for half the price, great business.

 

That's all I can think of, 4 players, in all the time he's been here. I'm not trying to stick up for Ashley here but this line that gets thrown around isn't really backed up, and all really goes back to Carroll because he was a young Geordie lad and Cabaye because we never replaced our best player.

 

I agree with Baba, there's no constraints really here that other managers in other parts of the world don't live with on a daily basis. 

 

no, i wasn't being serious marra

[toontownman]

To me it reads like we want Remi, but now. He wants his coaching staff, we won't pay for them/the won't come so he is happy to wait until the summer instead.

 

Think we are trying to call his bluff and are putting pressure on him to come now by saying we have other options and can wait for even more options come summer.

 

While they aren't ruling it in the chronicle article out it doesn't look like they fancy Carver for the rest of the season either. Could have easily mention of carver being backed or capable to lead the team until the end of the season if no permanent solution is found this week.

[Ally]

While there's obviously a lot of s*** there in that Charnley thing he's at least been pretty clear here:

 

"First and foremost, they have to be a good coach and with a track record of developing players and giving young players a chance is important.

 

For me, style of play is important. How they conduct themselves is also important as the head coach will play a key part in how the club is perceived through his conduct on and off the field."

 

He's basically describing the anti-Pardew there. Actions speak louder than words mind.

 

They're basically looking for someone daft enough to operate within the narrow constraints they'll give them. Style of play, etc is a distant secondary consideration.

 

What constraints? If you mean little control over transfers and your best players being sold to bigger clubs, this is ~99% of manager positions, especially if they are looking to France as rumoured (though rumours are often incorrect).

Nah, like ALL HIS BEST PLAYERS GETTING SOLD ALL THE TIME marra

 

Not sure if you are serious here MrM but I'm not entirely convinced about this statement tbh. So who have we sold, the list really isn't that long and it's not ALL our best players:

 

(not going to take every example here like for example Best, Duff, Nolan, Barton, Routledge, Forster, Simpson etc. because these deals made sense)

 

Bassong - Had a great one season we got 8m for him, we had just been relegated, in the end proved great business because he was s**** after he left us.

Carroll - We got 35 million for the player, still to this day think that was a great deal for a oft injured player who had proved himself for half a season in the PL.

Cabaye - 20 million for our best player, who clearly wanted to leave after going in the huff in the summer because we knocked back Arsenal. The only thing wrong with this deal was we never replaced him.

Debuchy  - 10 million for a player that been out most of the season and getting close to 30 looks pretty darn good now especially when we replaced him with a quality player who is much younger and for half the price, great business.

 

That's all I can think of, 4 players, in all the time he's been here. I'm not trying to stick up for Ashley here but this line that gets thrown around isn't really backed up, and all really goes back to Carroll because he was a young Geordie lad and Cabaye because we never replaced our best player.

 

I agree with Baba, there's no constraints really here that other managers in other parts of the world don't live with on a daily basis. 

 

Circumstances a bit different but don't forget Pardew mentioning Demba Ba's release clause at every possible moment

[Dr.Spaceman]

While there's obviously a lot of s*** there in that Charnley thing he's at least been pretty clear here:

 

"First and foremost, they have to be a good coach and with a track record of developing players and giving young players a chance is important.

 

For me, style of play is important. How they conduct themselves is also important as the head coach will play a key part in how the club is perceived through his conduct on and off the field."

 

He's basically describing the anti-Pardew there. Actions speak louder than words mind.

 

They're basically looking for someone daft enough to operate within the narrow constraints they'll give them. Style of play, etc is a distant secondary consideration.

 

What constraints? If you mean little control over transfers and your best players being sold to bigger clubs, this is ~99% of manager positions, especially if they are looking to France as rumoured (though rumours are often incorrect).

Nah, like ALL HIS BEST PLAYERS GETTING SOLD ALL THE TIME marra

 

Not sure if you are serious here MrM but I'm not entirely convinced about this statement tbh. So who have we sold, the list really isn't that long and it's not ALL our best players:

 

(not going to take every example here like for example Best, Duff, Nolan, Barton, Routledge, Forster, Simpson etc. because these deals made sense)

 

Bassong - Had a great one season we got 8m for him, we had just been relegated, in the end proved great business because he was s**** after he left us.

Carroll - We got 35 million for the player, still to this day think that was a great deal for a oft injured player who had proved himself for half a season in the PL.

Cabaye - 20 million for our best player, who clearly wanted to leave after going in the huff in the summer because we knocked back Arsenal. The only thing wrong with this deal was we never replaced him.

Debuchy  - 10 million for a player that been out most of the season and getting close to 30 looks pretty darn good now especially when we replaced him with a quality player who is much younger and for half the price, great business.

 

That's all I can think of, 4 players, in all the time he's been here. I'm not trying to stick up for Ashley here but this line that gets thrown around isn't really backed up, and all really goes back to Carroll because he was a young Geordie lad and Cabaye because we never replaced our best player.

 

I agree with Baba, there's no constraints really here that other managers in other parts of the world don't live with on a daily basis. 

 

Fucking hell

[Ikon]

This "club" :(

[mrmojorisin75]

While there's obviously a lot of s*** there in that Charnley thing he's at least been pretty clear here:

 

"First and foremost, they have to be a good coach and with a track record of developing players and giving young players a chance is important.

 

For me, style of play is important. How they conduct themselves is also important as the head coach will play a key part in how the club is perceived through his conduct on and off the field."

 

He's basically describing the anti-Pardew there. Actions speak louder than words mind.

 

They're basically looking for someone daft enough to operate within the narrow constraints they'll give them. Style of play, etc is a distant secondary consideration.

 

What constraints? If you mean little control over transfers and your best players being sold to bigger clubs, this is ~99% of manager positions, especially if they are looking to France as rumoured (though rumours are often incorrect).

Nah, like ALL HIS BEST PLAYERS GETTING SOLD ALL THE TIME marra

 

Not sure if you are serious here MrM but I'm not entirely convinced about this statement tbh. So who have we sold, the list really isn't that long and it's not ALL our best players:

 

(not going to take every example here like for example Best, Duff, Nolan, Barton, Routledge, Forster, Simpson etc. because these deals made sense)

 

Bassong - Had a great one season we got 8m for him, we had just been relegated, in the end proved great business because he was s**** after he left us.

Carroll - We got 35 million for the player, still to this day think that was a great deal for a oft injured player who had proved himself for half a season in the PL.

Cabaye - 20 million for our best player, who clearly wanted to leave after going in the huff in the summer because we knocked back Arsenal. The only thing wrong with this deal was we never replaced him.

Debuchy  - 10 million for a player that been out most of the season and getting close to 30 looks pretty darn good now especially when we replaced him with a quality player who is much younger and for half the price, great business.

 

That's all I can think of, 4 players, in all the time he's been here. I'm not trying to stick up for Ashley here but this line that gets thrown around isn't really backed up, and all really goes back to Carroll because he was a young Geordie lad and Cabaye because we never replaced our best player.

 

I agree with Baba, there's no constraints really here that other managers in other parts of the world don't live with on a daily basis. 

 

Fucking hell

 

[r0cafella]

Such blatant lies, the January window is one they don't envisage being busy in, so why a couple of summers back did we only sign Anita and no one else.

 

The baldheaded fuck can fuck right off, lying cunt

[Guest]

Such blatant lies, the January window is one they don't envisage being busy in, so why a couple of summers back did we only sign Anita and no one else.

 

The baldheaded f*** can f*** right off, lying c***

 

Wasn't their argument then though that nobody left so everything was fine & dandy?

[Noodles]

Such blatant lies, the January window is one they don't envisage being busy in, so why a couple of summers back did we only sign Anita and no one else.

 

The baldheaded f*** can f*** right off, lying c***

 

Wasn't their argument then though that nobody left so everything was fine & dandy?

 

Even so, with extra games from the Europa it's inevitable that your gunna need a bigger squad. If the higher ups can't see something as simple as that then we are well and truly tatered!

[Disco]

The hardest window to bring players in is the current/next window.

[Beren]

While there's obviously a lot of shit there in that Charnley thing he's at least been pretty clear here:

 

"First and foremost, they have to be a good coach and with a track record of developing players and giving young players a chance is important.

 

For me, style of play is important. How they conduct themselves is also important as the head coach will play a key part in how the club is perceived through his conduct on and off the field."

 

He's basically describing the anti-Pardew there. Actions speak louder than words mind.

 

 

 

And that's why it makes no sense whatsoever that they had such a lob on for Pardew. Walking contradiction.

 

That part is just marketing for season ticket sales. Pardew was perfect for them.q

[Elliottman]

The only positive to take is that it appears it wont be Carver. I wonder if Carver will take a huff if he's told there's someone coming in at the end of the year.

[Wallace]

If Garde is their man, then there will be no reason for the club not to make an announcement to say that he will be taking over in the Summer.

 

If we wait for the better options in the Summer, then they better be good.  Imagine waiting 6 months and we end up appointing McLaren.

 

 

 

[Guest neesy111]

The only positive to take is that it appears it wont be Carver. I wonder if Carver will take a huff if he's told there's someone coming in at the end of the year.

 

I can't see it myself, he probably won't get a job anywhere else apart from the Northern division.

[Guest firetotheworks]

Not a lot more to add other than that they're all cunts, as well as shameless, relentless, proven liars and absolutely not worth listening to, ever.