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Just now, Skeletor said:

 

English FA need to learn how to use brown envelopes. If they talk to PGMOL, I'm sure they can teach them.

 

They tried when it went Germany. They just weren't weighty enough.

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5 hours ago, SEMTEX said:

Russia -> Qatar -> USA

 

Gets worse every time. Donald will be back by 2026 too!

Turned 18 during the 2006 one in Germany. Since then, it'll have been in South Africa, Brazil, Russia, Qatar and USA. I'll be in my 40s for the next one in Europe that I could plausibly go to :lol:

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Dinho lad

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7 hours ago, Klaus said:

I somewhat believe in a countries sovereignty to have their own laws and culture etc, but that is just :anguish:

 

Expecting gay and unmarried football supporters to avoid any intimacy is just mental. I kind of expected them to turn a blind eye to it, considering the eyes of the world will be on the tournament.

 

 

 

 

Do you like being ignorant and misinformed or something?? Public display of affection is frowned up for all types of sexual relationships - hetro, homo or whatever. I'm not sure if it's even law, but simply not part of the social culture there. Homosexuals, unmarried couple, etc, can come to Qatar and feel safe and of course do whatever they want behind closed doors. What more do you want considering it's a one month event?? To change their laws and culture for it? Dream on, they don't have to change for anyone, they'll do it when it's right for them. 

 

For your information btw, the extent of public display of affection is not ruled by zero-tolerance. For example, homosexuals will be able to hold hands in public and they will have no one approaching them and bothering them. Like the Qataris promised, everyone is welcome and it's safe (well, at least no more dangerous than anywhere else). I'm pretty sure they can even kiss in public (anything more than that is degenerate and  frowned up quite a lot in the West anyway!)  but it's probably restricted to alternative areas such as bar, clubs, hotels (same for alcohol), etc, away from family-orientated spaces like religious sites, housing areas, etc. Even in the west there are areas where drinking or public display of affection is regulated. So what if Qatar has a wider area of regulation?! 

 

Now that we're close to the world cup, the main important point is the hospitality and safety of visitors. That, I'm quite sure, will not be a problem.  The issue of their laws, practices, and social customs should have been brought up much more in the past when it was more effective to do so. 

 

But anyway..... stop your misinformed, ignorant shit. The homosexuality ruling in Qatar is not enforced! But, I'll tell you what's enforced...… fucking 'capital punishment' in the fucking USA! I'm sure there wouldn't be many complaints when they host the next world cup!  

 

 

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RodneyCisse

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7 hours ago, gbandit said:

Horrific, I’m definitely going to have a different experience with this World Cup than any before. I’m looking forward to watching our players perform but normally I’d be excited about watching every single minute of football I could manage


Doesn’t feel like a World Cup in 2 weeks.

 

Usually I’m buzzing. 

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Dinho lad

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2 minutes ago, Klaus said:

You must be fun at parties

 

Didn't expect a better response from an ignorant and misinformed soul. Well, at least you enjoyed your one liner. 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Dinho lad said:

 

Didn't expect a better response from an ignorant and misinformed soul. Well, at least you enjoyed your one liner. 

 

 

 

 

Did your dog die recently or something? Your craic has been lifting in here and in chat, in recent times.

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Dinho lad

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6 minutes ago, Klaus said:

 

Did your dog die recently or something? Your craic has been lifting in here and in chat, in recent times.

 

Don't like dogs... don't like pets. Don't mind animals.... just don't want to look after them. 

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Well this topic has gone off the deep end [emoji38]

 

As an Arab American Muslim, figure i would give my perspective on this world cup and all of the discussions about morale dilemma that's come from it.

 

First thing I will say, is the treatment of migrant workers in the Arabian gulf is a travesty and an abuse that should be highlighted and called out. My wife is from the asian sub-continent, and I've met many people from there who have described the racist and abusive behavior SOME of them have faced in those countries and its boiled my blood.

 

I think one of the major reasons you are seeing, arabs, and other eastern cultures react very defensively to the accusations against this world cup not being boycotted is this feeling of double standards being bandied about by the west. There seems to be this desire to critically look at other cultures that are different, and scrutinize every aspect of their way of life and negative behavior as something that is irredeemable, whereas issues, and activities in the west are seen as an unfortunate aspect that doesn't require the same scrutiny.

 

America for example is hosting the next world cup. If we objectively calculated the damage this government has done abroad over the last 50 years, and discuss some of the human rights issues internally this country has faced in its recent history, the list would dwarf anything we've seen in Qatar. I'm willing to bet though, that there will be no wide spread condemnation, or questioning of whether anyone should attend, or if world cup 2026 should be boycotted. I think that is the frustrating part for a lot of people.

 

That's not to say I don't think people should hold all governments and entities of power to account for abuses they commit. That is commendable and something we should push in all cases. It just feels disingenuous and unfair when we're not holding everyone to the same standards.      

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Dinho, I get that you have completely different viewpoints to the majority on here, myself included (jnfact I disagree with pretty much everything you've posted), and you are trying to impart your opinion on to others as well as explain why you have these views. You are your own person, and you're entitled to them, and this is a forum at the end of the day, but the way you are going on at the moment is very condescending, patronizing, ignorant and in some cases downright insulting, and given you're challenging people's core beliefs people are naturally starting to get riled up because of it, and I think you'll be better off remembering that people (myself included) are going to start biting back with the way you are going, and things will turn toxic fast, which I don't think many people want when logging into a Football forum.

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10 minutes ago, 54 said:

Dinho, I get that you have completely different viewpoints to the majority on here, myself included (jnfact I disagree with pretty much everything you've posted), and you are trying to impart your opinion on to others as well as explain why you have these views. You are your own person, and you're entitled to them, and this is a forum at the end of the day, but the way you are going on at the moment is very condescending, patronizing, ignorant and in some cases downright insulting, and given you're challenging people's core beliefs people are naturally starting to get riled up because of it, and I think you'll be better off remembering that people (myself included) are going to start biting back with the way you are going, and things will turn toxic fast, which I don't think many people want when logging into a Football forum.

 

I receive a lot of abuse here as well, fella. Actually, quite a few insults and condescending stuff about me also happens in conversation that I'm not even part of. They could have the decency to tag me, at least. 

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11 hours ago, Skeletor said:

 

"I've spent all my bribe money"

 

Yep - no doubt has done the math and realised that the bag he got from Qatar doesn't outweigh the decade of further plundering he could've done if he hadn't got turfed out as a result of it.

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9 hours ago, Nobody said:

Turned 18 during the 2006 one in Germany. Since then, it'll have been in South Africa, Brazil, Russia, Qatar and USA. I'll be in my 40s for the next one in Europe that I could plausibly go to :lol:


Try and go to Canada/USA/Mexico man, it’ll be a brilliant tournament. 

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