AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 On 08/06/2022 at 13:23, WillingtonMag said: How does Mount start ahead of Grealish Different position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillingtonMag Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 15 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Different position. Do they have to be though I'd have a front 4 of Kane, Foden, Grealish, Saka. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Sterling takes up Grealish's role though, and he was our best player in the Euros imo. Alli and Lingard dropping off the face of the earth has fucked us a bit tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 3 hours ago, Jaqen said: Final and Semi final in the last two tournaments sounds great but beating a poor Germany side has been our best result and performance really. Lost to Belgium twice, Croatia and an Italy side that couldn't even make the World Cup. This is the kind of thing that's used to have a go at Southgate that I find so disingenuous. Italy won all 3 group games comfortably then knocked out Belgium and Spain. On this forum and elsewhere people were absolutely buzzing about them and saying they looked like clear favourites right from the off. They were fully deserving finalists, using something that then happened to them a year later (after their best attacking player, Chiesa, got injured) is just massaging the facts to suit a dislike of the manager. Quote We've got probably around 1b's worth of attacking and midfield options in the squad to work with yet we setup like we're plucky underdogs and always more worried about the opposition. All half decent international teams do this, literally every single one of them. Didier Deschamps has been manager of France for 10 years, he's won a World Cup and lost a Euro final, they are absolutely dull as fuck. Portugal were absolutely unwatchable in winning Euro 2016. That's international football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 9 minutes ago, Wullie said: This is the kind of thing that's used to have a go at Southgate that I find so disingenuous. Italy won all 3 group games comfortably then knocked out Belgium and Spain. On this forum and elsewhere people were absolutely buzzing about them and saying they looked like clear favourites right from the off. They were fully deserving finalists, using something that then happened to them a year later (after their best attacking player, Chiesa, got injured) is just massaging the facts to suit a dislike of the manager. All half decent international teams do this, literally every single one of them. Didier Deschamps has been manager of France for 10 years, he's won a World Cup and lost a Euro final, they are absolutely dull as fuck. Portugal were absolutely unwatchable in winning Euro 2016. That's international football. 100% and I fucking hate it. Put your feet up and put on a video of the 82 WC and watch how Brazil played with Zico, Socrates and Falcao. Or France with Platini and Giresse in 84. Watch the Denmark team in the 86 WC take Spain apart 6-1 with Laudrup taking the piss. Modern football has advanced so much but in so many ways, give me international football from 40 years ago any day of the week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Wullie said: This is the kind of thing that's used to have a go at Southgate that I find so disingenuous. Italy won all 3 group games comfortably then knocked out Belgium and Spain. On this forum and elsewhere people were absolutely buzzing about them and saying they looked like clear favourites right from the off. They were fully deserving finalists, using something that then happened to them a year later (after their best attacking player, Chiesa, got injured) is just massaging the facts to suit a dislike of the manager. All half decent international teams do this, literally every single one of them. Didier Deschamps has been manager of France for 10 years, he's won a World Cup and lost a Euro final, they are absolutely dull as fuck. Portugal were absolutely unwatchable in winning Euro 2016. That's international football. To be fair I've defended Southgate the whole times he's been manager but the whole final and semi final argument is the same as Bruce finishing the same as Rafa or Pardew getting us 5th defence. It doesn't tell the whole story. Beating most of the teams we should beat means he's done a much better job than his predecessors already by default. I think you can think Southgate has done a good job but probably isn't good enough to take us to the next step though. I don't think he's capable of beating three decent teams in a row like Mancini did with Italy for example and that's what it might take at the next World Cup, we'll sure not get as easy a run as we've had last two times. I agree though France, Portugal and Belgium in particular standout as having managers who aren't very good and a bit too negative as well. So in that sense we aren't at a big disadvantage with Southgate. I disagree about all the other teams having such a wealth of talent to pick from though. Other than France we easily have the strongest squad in Europe. Our bench players are better than most teams starters. Think having a fair few players with not a lot of big game experience played a part too, mind. A lot of them aren't Champions League regulars or have much experience of winning things. As soon as we took the lead against Italy it looked like they shit themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Mount man, the most average of players… decent lineup otherwise. Hopefully Abraham will shine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerprince2004 Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 (edited) Going to be played by closed doors so no crowd, will be like watching in lockdown all over again. Probably sack this off now although fancy watching Scamacca as he's been linked so Im tempted. Edited June 11, 2022 by Pokerprince2004 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 The thing is, Mount is actually a good player in a Chelsea shirt but he’s not had a good England game yet, at least not for the whole game. This will be his 29th cap, he really doesn’t deserve to be getting a start every game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 That crowd is pathetic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Another anthem that's better than ours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 We playing at the SOL? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big River Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Just now, Dokko said: That crowd is pathetic it’s behind closed doors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Molineux Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 England team singing the anthem like a load of primary school kids at morning assembly singing All Things Bright and Beautiful. Tear to my eye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Should be 1-0 down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big River Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Just now, gbandit said: Should be 1-0 down like a knife through butter. ffs Gareth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizza Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Ugh, awful crowd of screeching kids. I'd rather listen to fake crowd noise than this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 That defence Tomori playing sweeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 The kids need to shut the fuck up like. Squealing little urchins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Just now, Big River said: like a knife through butter. ffs Gareth Did the commentator try to blame trippier there. He was nowhere near the player it was rice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Quality from Mount there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, midds said: The kids need to shut the fuck up like. Squealing little urchins It sounds absolutely ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: It sounds absolutely ridiculous. Squealing..."who are ya'" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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