LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 It would be classic England to get the 'favourable' route then lose to Colombia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 I suspect Columbo will play much better against us than they have done upto now. Just one more thing... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 I don't think the players areactively trying to lose this game, the players are trying but look disjointed because of how many changes have been made. Yep. It's played out like the second half in a friendly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 We thought we had a favourable route when we drew Iceland in the Euros Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 I suspect Columbo will play much better against us than they have done upto now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Just had a proper look at the draw from here on. Coming second is miles better, some people must be pissed up. Miles better in terms of what though? It's avoiding the entire point of the tournament & taking loads of things for granted. Wrong way to look at it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 We thought we had a favourable route when we drew Iceland in the Euros We were much worse then tbh. Anyway, Colombia is a winnable match as would be the following match. Nothing wrong with saying that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 We thought we had a favourable route when we drew Iceland in the Euros We were much worse then tbh. Anyway, Colombia is a winnable match as would be the following match. Nothing wrong with saying that. Completely forgetting the original point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Just had a proper look at the draw from here on. Coming second is miles better, some people must be pissed up. Miles better in terms of what though? It's avoiding the entire point of the tournament & taking loads of things for granted. Wrong way to look at it all. What's the entire point of the tournament? Winning it? Surely the easiest route to the final makes the entire point of the tournament more achievable Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Push it back to danger so it looks good, there’s a good charva. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Pickford loves a palm back into the danger area Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Just had a proper look at the draw from here on. Coming second is miles better, some people must be pissed up. Miles better in terms of what though? It's avoiding the entire point of the tournament & taking loads of things for granted. Wrong way to look at it all. What's the entire point of the tournament? Winning it? Surely the easiest route to the final makes the entire point of the tournament more achievable Surely the point is to be able to call yourself the best side in the world? Are you achieving that by being scared of playing half the sides in it & hoping other teams knock them out for you? It's a really embarrassing way of looking at it in my opinion and a bit concerning how many want to win something in that manner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Just had a proper look at the draw from here on. Coming second is miles better, some people must be pissed up. Miles better in terms of what though? It's avoiding the entire point of the tournament & taking loads of things for granted. Wrong way to look at it all. Eh, we stay like this and we have the easiest route to the semis ever Columbia might punish us, Brazil almost certainly will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlufPurdi Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 It would be classic England to get the 'favourable' route then lose to Colombia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicago_shearer Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Even if you don't rate Colombia for some reason, a possible QF against Brazil would at least be fun. Something to look forward to. A possible World Cup QF against Sweden or Shaqiri might be easier on paper, but almost certainly a shit game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Just had a proper look at the draw from here on. Coming second is miles better, some people must be pissed up. Miles better in terms of what though? It's avoiding the entire point of the tournament & taking loads of things for granted. Wrong way to look at it all. What's the entire point of the tournament? Winning it? Surely the easiest route to the final makes the entire point of the tournament more achievable Surely the point is to be able to call yourself the best side in the world? Are you achieving that by being scared of playing half the sides in it & hoping other teams knock them out for you? It's a really embarrassing way of looking at it in my opinion and a bit concerning how many want to win something in that manner. Do you hope we pull Shrewsbury Town at SJP in the third round of the FA Cup or Chelsea away? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 It’s the arrogance man. We’ll definitely beat Sweden though, beat them loads - every single time iirc. We’ll definitely beat Switzerland, they must be shit as they only drew with Brazil who are very scary and haven’t lost yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Just had a proper look at the draw from here on. Coming second is miles better, some people must be pissed up. Miles better in terms of what though? It's avoiding the entire point of the tournament & taking loads of things for granted. Wrong way to look at it all. What's the entire point of the tournament? Winning it? Surely the easiest route to the final makes the entire point of the tournament more achievable Surely the point is to be able to call yourself the best side in the world? Are you achieving that by being scared of playing half the sides in it & hoping other teams knock them out for you? It's a really embarrassing way of looking at it in my opinion and a bit concerning how many want to win something in that manner. As if anyone English would complain if we won the World Cup without ever playing anyone decent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Feel sorry for the fans that have gone all the way out there and get a B team match Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Just had a proper look at the draw from here on. Coming second is miles better, some people must be pissed up. Miles better in terms of what though? It's avoiding the entire point of the tournament & taking loads of things for granted. Wrong way to look at it all. What's the entire point of the tournament? Winning it? Surely the easiest route to the final makes the entire point of the tournament more achievable Surely the point is to be able to call yourself the best side in the world? Are you achieving that by being scared of playing half the sides in it & hoping other teams knock them out for you? It's a really embarrassing way of looking at it in my opinion and a bit concerning how many want to win something in that manner. So while the whole country would be celebrating a World Cup win you'd be concerned because we didn't play the best teams en route to the final? I bet the Portuguese were gutted they didn;t play anyone decent until the Euros final that they ended up winning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Cisse to bang in the equaliser. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 To be fair, it’s upto Southgate to make a loss/finishing second in the group insignificant and as much as I don’t buy this finishing second and fielding a weakened team shite, you have to trust him and hope it doesn’t effect us. If it does questions will be asked and if he has anything about him he will learn and recover. me, I’d play my strongest team and tell them to thrash Belgium and not to worry about who we may or may not face next because we can beat anyone. I’d tell the rest of the players that the aim is to win the WC and they can help us by supporting us and by being ready if needed in case of extra time, sendings off, penalties and injuries and that this is the start and their time will come again in future tournaments. The players seem a canny bunch with no egos or selfish ideas above their station and should buy into that. Kane could be way out in front for the Golden Boot and Sterling could be off the mark. I’d be gutted and resentful if I were those two in particular, but I’d like to hope I’d be professional enough to get over it and move on. Again I just hope this does t come back to haunt us, I have a funny feeling it will though. I’m more disappointed that it rendered the game a non event for me and I was so looking forward to it and badly want to see England grow and grow in terms of their football to prove this isn’t another false dawn. Shite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Pickford has to be dropped. He's a real liability. Mackem cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 England did this in 2002 with a draw Vs Nigeria to finish 2nd and still got knocked out Vs Brazil. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted June 28, 2018 Share Posted June 28, 2018 Just had a proper look at the draw from here on. Coming second is miles better, some people must be pissed up. Miles better in terms of what though? It's avoiding the entire point of the tournament & taking loads of things for granted. Wrong way to look at it all. What's the entire point of the tournament? Winning it? Surely the easiest route to the final makes the entire point of the tournament more achievable Surely the point is to be able to call yourself the best side in the world? Are you achieving that by being scared of playing half the sides in it & hoping other teams knock them out for you? It's a really embarrassing way of looking at it in my opinion and a bit concerning how many want to win something in that manner. Do you hope we pull Shrewsbury Town at SJP in the third round of the FA Cup or Chelsea away? Not the same though is it, this is a straight tournament whereby one result potentially affects the following result. Also the FA cup isn't about being the best side in England. If that were the aim, then the point would be to be capable of beating all other sides in the country so you'd be fine with getting other big teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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