England

[triggs]

Pickford shouting at Mandzukic "get up you fucking twat" while he was on the ground clearly actually hurt a few minutes before Mandzukic scored the winner is hilarious

[nemtizz]

Not really.

[wormy]

 

[Anderson]

Rewatched those clips of Southgate coming back out to the fans well after the final whistle too many times.

[The College Dropout]

The ITV coverage of the Croatia - Russia game spoke a lot about Croats being tired.

 

Bilic was there and he probably felt an air of arrogance. Knowing the Croatian players attitudes it would motivate them.

 

And then In the other Semi the Beeb presenters spoke a lot about fading France and had to remind themselves they had a game against Croatia to play. 

 

That speaks to our weakness as a nation. Thinking about wining a final rather than the next game. It’s no wonder it seems like the England players played the occasion.

[SEMTEX]

"the opponents might be tired"

ARROGANT FUCKS

[SEMTEX]

ps if it wasnt clear your post is utter fucking shit

[nemtizz]

[Hanshithispantz]

Was posted at 20 past 1 tbf. Might have been a bit tired.

[mrmojorisin75]

Can't wait to see Mbappe rip Croatia to shreds on Sunday.

 

hopefully sets griezemann up for a hattrick

[Cronky]

Him and that rat at right back were absolutely rank. I fucking hate Lovren, he's a slapstick defender.

 

He’s been chipping in too.

 

 

Painful but true. We reverted to type.

 

Not exactly gracious in victory though.

[joeyt]

Despite speaking utter shite (I assumed purposefully) for like 90% of his posts Jotenko would come out with some gold every so often. Is the gif still around?

The gif of him celebrating to the camera was amazing. Tried a search for it but couldn't find it.  Found this though

[The College Dropout]

"the opponents might be tired"

ARROGANT FUCKS

 

It wasn't just that. First it was Croatians will be tired, then they even started talking about where the open top bus parades will be.

 

Yes, it's mostly a joke but it tells you something about where our minds are.

 

I don't think the Croatians would be doing that.

[Wullie]

Based on absolutely nothing.

[The College Dropout]

Based on absolutely nothing.

 

Based on them taking what was said, to heart.

[Wullie]

Croatian dressing room glued to ITV.

[The College Dropout]

No but Bilic was there, hearing the jokes fly. Bilic managed Modric, Rakitic and Corluka - the senior lads of that group. I suspect he had a little word with some of them. 

 

The pundits were happy they went to ET against Russia. We thought stamina would be on our side. The pundits spoke about he final. When it became obvious that they looked the physically fitter - the pundits were surprised. We either over estimated our own stamina or under estimated theirs. It’s arrogance. 

 

Just seen a clip of Henderson misplacing 7-8 Long balls. A lot of it was due to a lack of composure.

[Hughesy]

That clip of Henderson's dreadful passes vs Croatia that is doing the rounds on twitter is somewhat damning..

[joeyt]

I haven't read the whole thread but is underestimating Croatia's stamina arrogance?

 

It seems to be just natural that you'd assume a team having played that many minutes would tire

[Infinitely Content]

That clip of Henderson's dreadful passes vs Croatia that is doing the rounds on twitter is somewhat damning..

 

He was really poor, but so were most others as well. We looked rushed and tense on the ball. Where as Croatia seemed to find space for extra touches in possession, we were constantly playing on the edge and couldn't gain or maintain any control. Poor really.

[Wullie]

Arrogance.

 

I don't know if you've ever watched pre-match football coverage before but speculating about what a team's potential strengths/weaknesses are in relation to their opposition is kind of the whole point. Had England played 2x120 minutes and Croatia not, the pundits would have said they were worried about England's stamina, why wouldn't they?

 

Again, we're back to this weird situation where the normal rules of following and talking about football cease to exist during international tournaments.

 

Think your team can maybe win a match? ARROGANCE.

Think Raheem Sterling might be objectively quicker than Dejan Lovren, and mention that England could use this to their advantage? DELUDED.

Query whether playing more football matches might make a human being more weary than another human being who has played less football matches? WHY EVERYONE HATES ENGLAND.

[Rich]

That clip of Henderson's dreadful passes vs Croatia that is doing the rounds on twitter is somewhat damning..

 

He was really poor, but so were most others as well. We looked rushed and tense on the ball. Where as Croatia seemed to find space for extra touches in possession, we were constantly playing on the edge and couldn't gain or maintain any control. Poor really.

 

We had no way out of beating their high press, because Alli and Lingard were way too high up the pitch leaving a risky run from one of the CBs or a ball into a crowded Henderson the only real alternatives. That sort of stuff is alright against poor opposition but as soon as Croatia clocked it (HT) we never adjusted.

[Disco]

Not having a calming pressence killed us like. No idea why Loftus Cheek didn't come on, even if he is a bit limited.

 

That and they couldn't seem to slow the game down. I get we were trying to hit them on the counter Southgate/Henderson should've been balling at them to take their time, stay down hurt, kill the game, box them in the corner for a bit. Even if just for 5 minutes to take the sting out of the constant attacks. Game management was sorely lacking and although that tends to come with experience it's not like it was a bunch of rookies out there plus they did it well against Colombia.

[Infinitely Content]

That clip of Henderson's dreadful passes vs Croatia that is doing the rounds on twitter is somewhat damning..

 

He was really poor, but so were most others as well. We looked rushed and tense on the ball. Where as Croatia seemed to find space for extra touches in possession, we were constantly playing on the edge and couldn't gain or maintain any control. Poor really.

 

We had no way out of beating their high press, because Alli and Lingard were way too high up the pitch leaving a risky run from one of the CBs or a ball into a crowded Henderson the only real alternatives. That sort of stuff is alright against poor opposition but as soon as Croatia clocked it (HT) we never adjusted.

 

Yeah, agreed. Unfortunately in that situation you're looking to your manager to react. Southgate didn't - a few like-for-like subs and that's all she wrote. He seems a honest & intelligent enough guy to sit back and observe that when he's home and hopefully learn from it for future tournaments.

[Rich]

Not having a calming pressence killed us like. No idea why Loftus Cheek didn't come on, even if he is a bit limited.

 

That and they couldn't seem to slow the game down. I get we were trying to hit them on the counter Southgate/Henderson should've been balling at them to take their time, stay down hurt, kill the game, box them in the corner for a bit. Even if just for 5 minutes to take the sting out of the constant attacks. Game management was sorely lacking and although that tends to come with experience it's not like it was a bunch of rookies out there plus they did it well against Colombia.

 

Easy playing Friday afternoon quarterback of course, but during the game I was howling for the usual Delph>Alli sub at the very least. RLC>Lingard would have helped enormously as well. Pull them back 25 yards and give us a platform to play again.