AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 On 04/06/2022 at 19:49, JumpersForGoalposts said: Not sure I buy that. I'd take Gazza doing a dentist chair celebration on the pitch over this boring shite any day. Expand Fair enough, but being England manager was seen as impossible job and we were never going to beat anyone. We picked Sam Allardyce FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 I know there aren’t many opportunities before the World Cup but Rice with Bellingham was never going to work. Playing 5 at the back without having a proper quality lwb is as just wild. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 On 04/06/2022 at 19:43, The Prophet said: The point being that Southgate has performed well in two consecutive tournaments. I agree he can be negative and he was tactically outclassed by Mancini, but that doesn't take away from the job he's done. Expand Southgate should never have been employed as England manager in my opinion. It wasn't long ago that we held on to a draw against Scotland. The last World Cup saw us draw with mighty Colombia and beat that massive team Tunisia by the odd goal. He's clueless! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 On 04/06/2022 at 20:14, Rod said: Southgate should never have been employed as England manager in my opinion. It wasn't long ago that we held on to a draw against Scotland. The last World Cup saw us draw with mighty Colombia and beat that massive team Tunisia by the odd goal. He's clueless! Expand We then went onto reach the final and semi-final of those tournaments. Clueless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Should have played Tripps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 On 04/06/2022 at 17:56, Stifler said: Reece James is fucking shit. Expand He isn’t. He’s one of the best right backs in the history of the premiership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed210 Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Rubbish today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Hope those calling for Southgate’s head av ad a laverly jabberly bank olerday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 I mean I am not his biggest fan, and tbh I totally agree he fucked the Euros final. And is far too negative generally. But a semi final and a final in his last 2 attempts, I think he's earned the right to manage us for a few more games lads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 On 04/06/2022 at 19:45, Kid Icarus said: You should want Southgate to be the manager for as long as possible if you're a Newcastle fan anyway, because Howe's name will definitely be in the mix. Expand Howe isn’t going to Engurland like, he’s too much of a hard grafter. Same way I wasn’t worried about Benitez taking the Spain job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 On 04/06/2022 at 21:38, Danh1 said: Howe isn’t going to Engurland like, he’s too much of a hard grafter. Same way I wasn’t worried about Benitez taking the Spain job. Expand Howe is on record as saying it would be his ultimate job. Thankfully he also said it would be something he'd want to do much later on because he enjoys being able to do regular coaching too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillingtonMag Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 On 04/06/2022 at 21:36, Interpolic said: I mean I am not his biggest fan, and tbh I totally agree he fucked the Euros final. And is far too negative generally. But a semi final and a final in his last 2 attempts, I think he's earned the right to manage us for a few more games lads Expand Why ? He had a great opportunity to win a final and his decisions in that game proved he isn't good enough and cost us. If we want to win a final we need some one with better in game management. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 On 04/06/2022 at 21:41, Kid Icarus said: Howe is on record as saying it would be his ultimate job. Thankfully he also said it would be something he'd want to do much later on because he enjoys being able to do regular coaching too much. Expand Ah really? Wasn’t aware of that like. But aye, good news that it’s later in his career that he’s looking at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 On 04/06/2022 at 21:41, WillingtonMag said: Why ? He had a great opportunity to win a final and his decisions in that game proved he isn't good enough and cost us. If we want to win a final we need some one with better in game management. Expand Far bigger and fancier names than Southgate didn't get us near a final post-96. It's a huge over-simplification to say get Mancini or someone in and we'll win the thing. I'd choose Southgate every day at the moment when the alternative is rolling the dice on another manager. Southgate has transformed the mentality and the ethos of the squad and beyond. We could be playing far more exciting football, definitely. I don't love watching the team and I personally do think there's a better way to play, with the players that we have. But hacking away at games and getting results was far too often not in the national makeup pre-Southgate. Like it or not, the last 2 tournaments have been huge successes for England given how shite we've been for much of the last 60-odd years. He's doing something right and while he's getting to the final 4 of competitions he deserves another crack at it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 On 04/06/2022 at 21:33, Interpolic said: Hope those calling for Southgate’s head av ad a laverly jabberly bank olerday Expand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 On 04/06/2022 at 22:00, Interpolic said: It's a huge over-simplification to say get Mancini or someone in and we'll win the thing. Expand Mancini ain't even qualified for the fucking thing. Feel like I live on a different planet when I read about how England should, as well as winning everything obviously, be playing some sort of scintillating attacking football. Have any of you people ever watched an international tournament? Every decent international team is also dull as fuck, enjoying internationals has always been for the purist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 On 04/06/2022 at 22:00, Interpolic said: Far bigger and fancier names than Southgate didn't get us near a final post-96. It's a huge over-simplification to say get Mancini or someone in and we'll win the thing. I'd choose Southgate every day at the moment when the alternative is rolling the dice on another manager. Southgate has transformed the mentality and the ethos of the squad and beyond. We could be playing far more exciting football, definitely. I don't love watching the team and I personally do think there's a better way to play, with the players that we have. But hacking away at games and getting results was far too often not in the national makeup pre-Southgate. Like it or not, the last 2 tournaments have been huge successes for England given how shite we've been for much of the last 60-odd years. He's doing something right and while he's getting to the final 4 of competitions he deserves another crack at it. Expand The whole change in ethos with the England set up by getting him in and treating the national team as a much more long term project with an importance on continuity and repeatability has turned us in to a different proposition. The days of cobbling the England 11 together when games come around with whatever manager is seen as the hottest prospect at the time returned awful results for years. Löw's sides were never particularly amazing but Germany were able to regularly compete by having their very good players walk in to a set up and a philosophy that was clear and well managed beyond the side that plays whatever game it is. France, despite not being a huge footballing nation, also have a better long term national setup than we've had too. Southgate may be uninspiring, but of all the other options available atm I still think him in that setup is currently the best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 On 04/06/2022 at 22:00, Interpolic said: Far bigger and fancier names than Southgate didn't get us near a final post-96. It's a huge over-simplification to say get Mancini or someone in and we'll win the thing. I'd choose Southgate every day at the moment when the alternative is rolling the dice on another manager. Southgate has transformed the mentality and the ethos of the squad and beyond. We could be playing far more exciting football, definitely. I don't love watching the team and I personally do think there's a better way to play, with the players that we have. But hacking away at games and getting results was far too often not in the national makeup pre-Southgate. Like it or not, the last 2 tournaments have been huge successes for England given how shite we've been for much of the last 60-odd years. He's doing something right and while he's getting to the final 4 of competitions he deserves another crack at it. Expand This is the cusp of the argument. You obviously thought that Southgate did a fabulous job (Steve Bruce remember), whereas I thought he flopped massively at both tournaments. Victories against Tunisia and Columbia should be a doddle for any manager. As soon as his team come up against a team with a bit of nous, such as Belgium, Italy or Croatia then he is clueless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillingtonMag Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 On 04/06/2022 at 22:15, Wullie said: Mancini ain't even qualified for the fucking thing. Feel like I live on a different planet when I read about how England should, as well as winning everything obviously, be playing some sort of scintillating attacking football. Have any of you people ever watched an international tournament? Every decent international team is also dull as fuck, enjoying internationals has always been for the purist. Expand With Mancini in charge we'd have won the Euros Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 On 04/06/2022 at 22:00, Interpolic said: Far bigger and fancier names than Southgate didn't get us near a final post-96. It's a huge over-simplification to say get Mancini or someone in and we'll win the thing. I'd choose Southgate every day at the moment when the alternative is rolling the dice on another manager. Southgate has transformed the mentality and the ethos of the squad and beyond. We could be playing far more exciting football, definitely. I don't love watching the team and I personally do think there's a better way to play, with the players that we have. But hacking away at games and getting results was far too often not in the national makeup pre-Southgate. Like it or not, the last 2 tournaments have been huge successes for England given how shite we've been for much of the last 60-odd years. He's doing something right and while he's getting to the final 4 of competitions he deserves another crack at it. Expand And by the way, this post is an absolute pile of shit. He's doing an awful job with probably the best talent that England have had in donkeys years. Oh by the way, we were beaten by Hungary tonight! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Pile of shit, IP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Any need for the aggression? Wind your neck in, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 On 04/06/2022 at 22:22, Rod said: And by the way, this post is an absolute pile of shit. He's doing an awful job with probably the best talent that England have had in donkeys years. Oh by the way, we were beaten by Hungary tonight! Expand But Bruce/Southgate is doing a fabulous job! Boils my piss! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 On 04/06/2022 at 22:25, Yorkie said: Any need for the aggression? Wind your neck in, man. Expand Christ Almighty, are you serious? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 (edited) Who had 'post-golden generation Rentford Rejects inexplicably reimagined as the best players we've ever had' on their daft cunt bingo card? Edited June 4, 2022 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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