54 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Everything bar the final ball/shot has been alright tonight, epitome of all fart no shit. Belgium have been Rafa-tastic to be fair to them defended really well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Taken about 5 years for some to appreciate Grealish's talent Grealish included in fairness. He's always been very talented Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Coady has to replace Dier Dier and Rice:anguish: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 It all well and good saying we were the better team, but Belgium went 2-0 up fairly early so they shut up shop. We had absolutely no answer to their low block. Southgate’s system is awful with 2 defensive midfield players in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 It's a massive improvement on where we were under Hodgson, but we're never going any further than this under Southgate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Maybe I just haven't seen him on a good day, but is Sancho really a £100m player? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 It all well and good saying we were the better team, but Belgium went 2-0 up fairly early so they shut up shop. We had absolutely no answer to their low block. Southgate’s system is awful with 2 defensive midfield players in it. This. Turned it off at HT as could see the 2nd half coming. Belgium did the job and then made it difficult. Before they scored they were on top and dictating the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Maybe I just haven't seen him on a good day, but is Sancho really a £100m player? Same tbh. Not convinced his stats would be anywhere near as good in another league/ team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Southgate's at the wheeeeeeel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Maybe I just haven't seen him on a good day, but is Sancho really a £100m player? Same tbh. Not convinced his stats would be anywhere near as good in another league/ team He's been poor this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Maximin Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 I think Sancho and Sterling, while still great players, are heavily reliant on the quality and style of play of their team. They’re intelligent, but will always have space to run into and team mates to make the right runs off. They don’t have the technical ability of Grealish, who is terrific and England need to build the team around. I still think there’s things to like about Southgate, but with the quality he has available he’s frustrating. We don’t have great centre-backs, so he compensates by playing a third one and removing an attacker, meaning we have a disproportionate amount of attacking quality on the bench. He then chooses to start with Mount, who (while still a fine player) is an underwhelming winger choice. Kane, Grealish and Mount are not a quick front three and I’d like to think he wouldn’t be first choice if/when Sterling, Sancho, Rashford, Ings and Calvert-Lewin are also available. Then you’ve got a midfield four comprising of two full-backs and an uninspiring CM pairing of a CB/DM and a box-to-box midfielder with no goals in 57 caps... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Taken about 5 years for some to appreciate Grealish's talent Grealish included in fairness. He's always been very talented Talented yes in spells. Just lacked focus and application early on. Particularly off the pitch. Hopefully he appreciates what he has and can achieve now. Just needs to stay on his feet more. More to football than just winning loads of FKs in harmless areas of the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Taken about 5 years for some to appreciate Grealish's talent Grealish included in fairness. He's always been very talented Talented yes in spells. Just lacked focus and application early on. Particularly off the pitch. Hopefully he appreciates what he has and can achieve now. Just needs to stay on his feet more. More to football than just winning loads of FKs in harmless areas of the pitch. He's been consistently very good for a few seasons now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Absolute dirt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 I still think there’s things to like about Southgate, but with the quality he has available he’s frustrating. ¨ Doesn't this apply to every England manager since SBR? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Maximin Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 I still think there’s things to like about Southgate, but with the quality he has available he’s frustrating. ¨ Doesn't this apply to every England manager since SBR? Now you’ve said it... yes 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 This is the best squad since around Euro 96 mind, not many managers have had players as good as this. Not sure what Southgate should have done last night, personally I'd do without Declan Rice and Dier. He was a bit unlucky not to have Rashford or Sterling. I still don't know if Sancho is good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Wasn't 2002 or 2004 squad better? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Taken about 5 years for some to appreciate Grealish's talent Grealish included in fairness. He's always been very talented Talented yes in spells. Just lacked focus and application early on. Particularly off the pitch. Hopefully he appreciates what he has and can achieve now. Just needs to stay on his feet more. More to football than just winning loads of FKs in harmless areas of the pitch. He's been consistently very good for a few seasons now. Just not 5 seasons like you stated. Still reminds me of Rui Costa. Just feel there’s something still missing and not sure it’s in him. Like a real killer instinct in the final third. Time will tell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Taken about 5 years for some to appreciate Grealish's talent Grealish included in fairness. He's always been very talented Talented yes in spells. Just lacked focus and application early on. Particularly off the pitch. Hopefully he appreciates what he has and can achieve now. Just needs to stay on his feet more. More to football than just winning loads of FKs in harmless areas of the pitch. He's been consistently very good for a few seasons now. Just not 5 seasons like you stated. Still reminds me of Rui Costa. Just feel there’s something still missing and not sure it’s in him. Like a real killer instinct in the final third. Time will tell. I didn't say he's been very good for 5 seasons. I said it's taken 5 years for people to appreciate he's talented Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Wasn't 2002 or 2004 squad better? I would say comfortably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 This squad is weak at the back , not a patch on adams, Campbell, Ferdinand etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 I just mash those two eras together I think we have a very good squad now, the defenders are pretty quality. CBs are not the best in the world but they're passable, and our choice of fullbacks is excellent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 The mid-'00s squads of Ferdinand, Terry, Campbell, Beckham, Gerrard, Lampard, Cole etc were surely better, but this is the best for at least a decade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 I think we've got some good right backs but Chilwell aside I'm not sure who our other quality left backs are Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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