Stifler Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 So from that we have learnt that even though relegation is very real prospect nothing about how it will affect the club in any area has been looked at and if they get a chance to vote for FA Cup replays to be scrapped then they will do so despite fans not wanting. Ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Should've sent the war men of honour to Benidorm and sent the players to Afghanistan to see what real heroes do IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 "Why is there seemingly no price for failure at NUFC. For a number of years now the club's own targets have been failed to be met by those tasked with ensuring they do both at a coaching and boardroom level. The only person to lose their job at NUFC in the last eight years at these levels was the one man who achieved his target and that was Chris Hughton. This worrying trend is mirrored in the playing staff, where poor performances by so called big name players are rewarded by another start for the first team due to a lack of options and depth in certain areas. How does the club expect to improve when there is seemingly no price or consequence for underachievement?" Good question for once. It's a great question, pretty much nails it. The "answer" though...so fucking arrogant. They're not taking anything in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikenewcastle Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 "Why is there seemingly no price for failure at NUFC. For a number of years now the club's own targets have been failed to be met by those tasked with ensuring they do both at a coaching and boardroom level. The only person to lose their job at NUFC in the last eight years at these levels was the one man who achieved his target and that was Chris Hughton. This worrying trend is mirrored in the playing staff, where poor performances by so called big name players are rewarded by another start for the first team due to a lack of options and depth in certain areas. How does the club expect to improve when there is seemingly no price or consequence for underachievement?" Good question for once. It's a great question, pretty much nails it. The "answer" though...so f***ing arrogant. They're not taking anything in. Will be genuinely interesting to read the minutes (for a change) if we get relegated. Would they accept any responsibility? Would they even accept that we aren't in the Premier League any more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 "Why is there seemingly no price for failure at NUFC. For a number of years now the club's own targets have been failed to be met by those tasked with ensuring they do both at a coaching and boardroom level. The only person to lose their job at NUFC in the last eight years at these levels was the one man who achieved his target and that was Chris Hughton. This worrying trend is mirrored in the playing staff, where poor performances by so called big name players are rewarded by another start for the first team due to a lack of options and depth in certain areas. How does the club expect to improve when there is seemingly no price or consequence for underachievement?" Good question for once. It's a great question, pretty much nails it. The "answer" though...so f***ing arrogant. They're not taking anything in. Will be genuinely interesting to read the minutes (for a change) if we get relegated. Would they accept any responsibility? Would they even accept that we aren't in the Premier League any more? They don't need to do them in the championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 "Why is there seemingly no price for failure at NUFC. For a number of years now the club's own targets have been failed to be met by those tasked with ensuring they do both at a coaching and boardroom level. The only person to lose their job at NUFC in the last eight years at these levels was the one man who achieved his target and that was Chris Hughton. This worrying trend is mirrored in the playing staff, where poor performances by so called big name players are rewarded by another start for the first team due to a lack of options and depth in certain areas. How does the club expect to improve when there is seemingly no price or consequence for underachievement?" Good question for once. It's a great question, pretty much nails it. The "answer" though...so f***ing arrogant. They're not taking anything in. Will be genuinely interesting to read the minutes (for a change) if we get relegated. Would they accept any responsibility? Would they even accept that we aren't in the Premier League any more? When they were questioned in a previous meeting about last season, they said there was no point looking back so it will be swept under the carpet as usual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 I will read through these tomorrow probably but if they really are so naive to think nothings wrong they want chucking in St Nicks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 So much hot air. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Actually pretty surprised they named Hughton in the minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 It's almost as if the club don't give any credence to these meetings and trot out the same old shite regardless... Got the distinct impression I'll be chuckling at these fucking arseholes in May. They deserve to go down and lose stacks of money in the process but I'll still be here long after they've moved on. I'm a Newcastle fan not a Premier League fan, fuck them, don't give a solitary fuck which division the club's playing in when they sling their slimy hooks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 It's almost as if the club don't give any credence to these meetings and trot out the same old s**** regardless... Got the distinct impression I'll be chuckling at these f***ing arseholes in May. They deserve to go down and lose stacks of money in the process but I'll still be here long after they've moved on. I'm a Newcastle fan not a Premier League fan, f*** them, don't give a solitary f*** which division the club's playing in when they sling their slimy hooks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Reading this it's clear as day that we need relegation in order to get the day cunt to sell and for us to rebuild. Complete and utter blind ignorance in the refusal to even acknowledge the gaping holes in the squad and the lack of progress on the pitch. Can only hope that a relegation and a possible Southampton-style renaissance would help us to get our club back. Given the size of the club and the size of the fan base, I'd hope that a rebuild wouldn't see us plummet down the leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Didn't do Leicester any harm. A big club a fraction of our size. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matta Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 So ignorant it's unreal. Recipe for relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 The answers to the important questions are horrendously arrogant. Always dodge them as they know the true answer makes them look clueless. As Dave said, unless this is heavily redacted, meeting must have been brief. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Sure the PA has been mentioned in quite a few versions of this. Can't even fix the small problems. The PA system in the milburn stand is so loud you can't hear yourself think for the din. 1 extreme to the other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 "Why is there seemingly no price for failure at NUFC. For a number of years now the club's own targets have been failed to be met by those tasked with ensuring they do both at a coaching and boardroom level. The only person to lose their job at NUFC in the last eight years at these levels was the one man who achieved his target and that was Chris Hughton. This worrying trend is mirrored in the playing staff, where poor performances by so called big name players are rewarded by another start for the first team due to a lack of options and depth in certain areas. How does the club expect to improve when there is seemingly no price or consequence for underachievement?" Good question for once. Their answer FFS "Business speak. Business speak. Hot air. Hot air. Guff. Guff. Guff. The club identifies where it has gone wrong and then works towards the solutions." Fuck me. They're not doing a very good job of it, are they? Since Hughton, we have been involved in 3 relegations scraps. One of those, is currently ongoing and may result in us actually going down. I think we've finished top half twice? 5ht and 10th. The 10th place finish flattered us massively. I think we had the standard Pardew losing streaks, where we were battered to nil. Plus yet two more derby defeats. I've only skimmed through the minutes. I've never bothered reading them before. I don't think I'll bother again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Actually pretty surprised they named Hughton in the minutes. Me too. Whilst these minutes look very light in terms of detail, I imagine there's actually quite a lot of debate between the various attendee's. It just which bits they choose to publish that kills any credibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankles Bennett Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I don't understand why the fans reps keep attending these meetings. They should all resign and cite the clubs inability/refusal to answer any straight questions put to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 My favourite part was: APOLOGIES Darren Miller - Long Distance Fan Representative I'd sack it off too if I had to travel for miles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 Even in normally-run clubs I assume these meetings are a farce. With us they're completely pointless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 It's almost as if the club don't give any credence to these meetings and trot out the same old s**** regardless... Got the distinct impression I'll be chuckling at these f***ing arseholes in May. They deserve to go down and lose stacks of money in the process but I'll still be here long after they've moved on. I'm a Newcastle fan not a Premier League fan, f*** them, don't give a solitary f*** which division the club's playing in when they sling their slimy hooks. You'd think this lot would have some humility after years and years of utter failure to meet even their own modest targets, but alas. If ever a club hierarchy deserved to go down for mismanagement and utter arrogance this is it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted February 27, 2016 Share Posted February 27, 2016 It's shit like this that makes me hope we get relegated. Not even to see the fat man lose a chunk of change, just to see little thumbhead and the rest of the stooges get their rancid arrogance shoved up their battered bumholes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 The Fans Forum have sent a letter to the club: "With ten Premier League games to go, we find ourselves in what appears to be a ‘3 from 4’ relegation battle. Fans of our club vented their strong views at St James Park during our defeat by Bournemouth. These fans have chosen to ‘stick by’ the club and religiously turn up week in, week out despite the horrendous season that we have encountered. These same fans are frequently tarnished with the view that we all expect to win the Champions League. What NUFC fans want is a team of eleven players in black and white shirts that understand their role to perform to their maximum - week in, week out. We have entrusted the board of NUFC to ensure that the right personnel are in place to carry out this basic expectation. Our current Head Coach, Steve McClaren, has now been responsible for 28 games, during that period: We have won 6 games - this is our joint worst ever number at this stage, only matched by our relegation season in 2008/09 We have the second worst goal difference in the PL (only better than Villa) We have scored 28 goals, the worst ever figure in recent history for this stage of the season. We have kept 1 clean sheet since 6th December 2015. We have the 3rd worst disciplinary record in the PL. On the 19th September 2015, Steve McClaren said "You are where you deserve to be. That’s where we are. I said judge us after ten games and I would still say the same now. The next two are tough but this is a tough job.” On the 17th October 2015, Steve McClaren said “I’m not saying judging me after ten, 11, 12 games or whatever. I guess I would say ‘if you’re going to throw things at me, judge me at the end of the season’.” Whilst we still have 10 games to go, NUFC Fans cannot accept the current work ethic of the players. Someone, somewhere has to be accountable and decisions must be made. During the recent Fans Forum meeting (22nd February 2016), we asked the club this: Why is there seemingly no price for failure at NUFC? For a number of years now the club's own targets have been failed to be met by those tasked with ensuring they do, both at a coaching and boardroom level. The only person to lose their job at NUFC in the last eight years at these levels was the one man who achieved his target and that was Chris Hughton. This worrying trend is mirrored in the playing staff, where poor performances by so called big name players are rewarded by another start for the first team due to a lack of options and depth in certain areas. How does the club expect to improve when there is seemingly no price or consequence for underachievement? Lee Charnley replied - “The club believes the squad now has strong options in most positions, enabling changes in team selection to be made where the head coach sees appropriate.” LC was also confident of Premier League survival at that meeting. Since then, we have lost both of our PL games. Last year, during our relegation battle, this Fans Forum talked about ‘Actions NOT Words’. That hasn’t changed. Lessons from that battle have quite clearly not been learned.It is absolutely imperative that the club has its fans ‘on-side’ for the remainder of the season. We must urge you to review our position and initiate any changes that you see fit to correct the current attitude of the playing staff. Our fans have every right to remind the club what was said last year - ‘We don’t demand a team that wins, we demand a club that tries!’Our players frequently look jaded and our playing style often appears outdated. We lack organisation and the players continue to lack discipline. During the Fans Forum meeting, Lee Charnley made it clear that we had a flexible approach to our usual transfer policy, which allowed us to sign two key targets. Maybe its time to accept that the ‘Head Coach’ role simply doesn’t work at NUFC and accept that a Manager is required, a person who will not only coach but motivate and manage! With substantial increases to TV revenues, players will only become increasingly difficult to manage not easier. Agents seeking lucrative pay-deals for their clients will attempt to dictate further. This will result in even less club loyalty unless we can grasp the uniqueness of Newcastle United Football Club and move forward together as one. We want fans that don't even contemplate giving up on season tickets. We want players that are proud to wear the famous colours. We want a manager that truly wants the best for us. It's time for action, its time for accountability." – ACTIONS NOT WORDS NUFC FANS FORUM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Good read, but its now in the nufc servers spam filter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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