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Fulham manager Slavisa Jokanovic:

 

"He [Aleksandar Mitrovic] is a quality player, he has started well with us. He is a proper striker that we have been looking for.

 

Sheffield United manager Chris Wilder:

 

"Mitrovic is an outstanding player and thankfully we won't be coming up against him in the next 11 games. He's going to the World Cup, Newcastle paid what for him? £15m? He should be playing in the Premier League.

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He should be but our manager would rather play Joselu

Our manager doesn’t structure his tactics/methods around what he has got, at least not to the extent of doing so with players who deviate from his preferred system. This has never seemed to be his way of working. It is method and team functioning over playing to individual strengths approach. He’s methodical, always has been, had success doing so, always will be the same. Football is a game of chess to him. A manager more focussed on the individual, on making who you have feel like a giant amongst men, sending them out pumped up to do their thing, create havoc, express themselves (alreet Kev), would have surely used Mitro this season, given the other options. He doesn’t fit for Rafa. Maybe he will re-consider if Mitro shows a consistency and reliability at Fulham he hasn’t shown here. I doubt it though.

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Nearly all those accusations for Mitro here are proven wrong and what's left is only "he doesn't suit Rafa system". Who knows why Joselu can fit in then?

 

As I said, admit Rafa has fucked it up doesn't mean saying Rafa out, how about just stop defending Rafa at all cost?

 

Joselu does what he's told. Mitrovic himself has said that Rafa's system doesn't suit him, he needs more support up front. Mitro is showing he can score goals at that level given that support, but he won't get it at Newcastle unless we have a more attacking manager. He didn't thrive under McClaren either because he played a very defensive formation as well.

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What we are seeing is that Mitrovic could possibly be the highly rated striker that we hoped he would be when we signed him. He'd still need to confirm that by playing in the top division under a manager who could get the best out of him, but it's encouraging.

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Sure, but that’s not really the question.

 

I trust Rafa implicitly but I can’t help thinking the club would have benefited from giving Mitro more of a chance. Guess it’s a moot point, given that Rafa sees him every day and has made the call he has.

 

It’s just hard to fully accept given how bad our striking options are.

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Sure, but that’s not really the question.

 

I trust Rafa implicitly but I can’t help thinking the club would have benefited from giving Mitro more of a chance. Guess it’s a moot point, given that Rafa sees him every day and has made the call he has.

 

It’s just hard to fully accept given how bad our striking options are.

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Rafa's not a disciplinarian in the typical sense, but his values are so ingrained that you might as well immediately pack your bags if you ever defy him. That's clearly what happened and Mitro will never get another chance for us, so I'm relieved to see him (and Colback, if Forest fans are to be believed) adding some pence to their price tags. Good luck to him, looks a great fit for Fulham and it's clearly been a good move for all parties.

 

Colback and Mitro were made examples of by the looks of things, defining the culture of the dressing room. The squad's general discipline, rigidity and determination has won us most of our points so far imo... but by the same token, the pish strikers have ultimately cost us points. So it's swings and roundabouts in terms of the result, imo, but I'll always trust Rafa in the long run.

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It frustrates me seeing him at Fulham because I've always been a fan of his and think a sustained run in our team would have us several points better off now. Ah well, life happens!

 

And then we die.

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It frustrates me seeing him at Fulham because I've always been a fan of his and think a sustained run in our team would have us several points better off now. Ah well, life happens!

 

And then we die.

 

Sometimes.

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It frustrates me seeing him at Fulham because I've always been a fan of his and think a sustained run in our team would have us several points better off now. Ah well, life happens!

 

And then we die.

 

Sometimes.

 

Death comes for all of us, rich and poor alike.

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Rafa's not a disciplinarian in the typical sense, but his values are so ingrained that you might as well immediately pack your bags if you ever defy him. That's clearly what happened and Mitro will never get another chance for us, so I'm relieved to see him (and Colback, if Forest fans are to be believed) adding some pence to their price tags. Good luck to him, looks a great fit for Fulham and it's clearly been a good move for all parties.

 

Colback and Mitro were made examples of by the looks of things, defining the culture of the dressing room. The squad's general discipline, rigidity and determination has won us most of our points so far imo... but by the same token, the pish strikers have ultimately cost us points. So it's swings and roundabouts in terms of the result, imo, but I'll always trust Rafa in the long run.

 

This basically. It's hard to stomach seeing Mitro scoring goals somewhere else, but the way I see it, we could set up in a way that would see him scoring more goals, but long term we might still end up getting nowhere because we had no discipline or team shape in other areas. With Rafa you know that given the right calibre of players, he will get results, he's a proven top level manager.

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I was speaking to a sensible Liverpool fan and it's hilarious how well they know him still, everything you mention to him about Rafa's quirks (such totally disregarding Mitro) he'll just throw in an example of when he did the exact same at Liverpool. Playing Kuyt all the time was his Joselu equivalent I seem to recall.

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The hyperbole around Mitro on various social media platforms is getting infuriating on both sides of the argument.

 

You've got half pointing at the elbow at the start of the season and implying he'll literally get sent off every game he plays. The other half pointing out how long since he's had a red and claiming he's reformed.

 

People reading the story about him running less in training than Joselu and Gayle and somehow twisting that to mean he's obviously the laziest cunt ever to put on a toon shirt and that he must be sitting on the floor and refusing to move every session.

 

People seeing his recent form/goal record and chucking out random numbers claiming he'd have scored that many this season if only Rafa gave him a chance.

 

Can there not be any middle ground in discussions any more? Obviously Rafa fancies the other strikers we have more than Mitro but does that have to mean Rafa thinks he's shit, lazy, can't be trusted, ect. Is it not possible for a player to play better or worse in different teams/systems? It's depressing watching all these stupid arguments play out day after day.

 

 

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If Rafa was backed then i'd always back him over any player. If Rafa were to leave, then I'd happily give Mitro a chance over any other permanent forwards we currently have on our books.

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