mighty__mag Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 If Rafa 'doesn't rate Mitro' or trust him or whatever, I can understand, sort of. However, buying Daryl Murphy and then selling Mitro significantly weakens our team, which is madness. Murphy as a backup player to Mitro is fine, but it is insanse if we sell Mitro and keep Murphy. If Mitrovic does get sold, we will be buying a striker. Probably Wilson. Probably another 15m to sit on the bench. Why? So we should have two strikers, one good one and one shit one? Price is irrelevant, we need a squad. Mitrovic isn't good enough and Rafa presumably wants to replace him. Mitro hasn't been tested enough at this level to warrant such assessment. But the truth is Benitez probably doesn't like him. And to rub salt into the wounds will go 442 with Wilson & Gayle as soon as Mitrovic is off. Mitro should have realised sooner you never pick a chubby spanish guy up in the air. Its been down hill for him since. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes_End_Mag Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Has Wilson had a falling out with Howe? Howe was speaking highly of him and saying they have no intention of selling only the other day so I doubt it, although Rafa was saying similar about Mitro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rompe Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Why does everyone assume that we're buying Wilson, and why would he drop down a level? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Why does everyone assume that we're buying Wilson, and why would he drop down a level? Hasn't been playing lately Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Why does everyone assume that we're buying Wilson, and why would he drop down a level? Not sure whether we are actually after Wilson at all, but I do remember what Howe said when we signed Ritchie... “We weren’t happy to let him go - Matt’s an outstanding player. But the reality is that we just couldn’t compete with Newcastle’s finances and Matty expressed a desire to leave." So if we offer the right money to club and player, then a drop down a division is hardly out of the question. And this time, we would also be buying from a 2nd place position, not a player taking (arguably) a bigger risk as Ritchie did on the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 If Rafa 'doesn't rate Mitro' or trust him or whatever, I can understand, sort of. However, buying Daryl Murphy and then selling Mitro significantly weakens our team, which is madness. Murphy as a backup player to Mitro is fine, but it is insanse if we sell Mitro and keep Murphy. If Mitrovic does get sold, we will be buying a striker. Probably Wilson. Probably another 15m to sit on the bench. Why? So we should have two strikers, one good one and one s*** one? Price is irrelevant, we need a squad. Mitrovic isn't good enough and Rafa presumably wants to replace him. How have you come to the conclusion that Mitrovic isn't good enough to be playing for us? We have players in our starting 11 who appear un-droppable who have put in much more shitter performances this season than Mitrovic has. Mitrovic was playing Champions League football prior to joining us, less than two years later and he's suddenly not good enough for the f***ing Championship where the likes of Glenn Murray score regularly Whether Mitrovic is good enough for the PL is a different story, but we're not in the PL. Considering we are struggling to break teams down a lot at the moment, it's incredible that he has not played much football at all. When he has started games this season, Blackburn aside, he has played well and scored goals. I sort of hope Mitrovic is sold, because he's been treated like a scapegoat by many for little reasoning and his career is stagnating at a key stage for no reason. He'll go off and have a decent career with someone else and we'll probably look the c***s when he's scoring regularly at a higher level than this - especially if we sell him this January and fail to go up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 If Rafa 'doesn't rate Mitro' or trust him or whatever, I can understand, sort of. However, buying Daryl Murphy and then selling Mitro significantly weakens our team, which is madness. Murphy as a backup player to Mitro is fine, but it is insanse if we sell Mitro and keep Murphy. If Mitrovic does get sold, we will be buying a striker. Probably Wilson. Probably another 15m to sit on the bench. Why? So we should have two strikers, one good one and one s*** one? Price is irrelevant, we need a squad. Mitrovic isn't good enough and Rafa presumably wants to replace him. How have you come to the conclusion that Mitrovic isn't good enough to be playing for us? We have players in our starting 11 who appear un-droppable who have put in much more shitter performances this season than Mitrovic has. Mitrovic was playing Champions League football prior to joining us, less than two years later and he's suddenly not good enough for the f***ing Championship where the likes of Glenn Murray score regularly Whether Mitrovic is good enough for the PL is a different story, but we're not in the PL. Considering we are struggling to break teams down a lot at the moment, it's incredible that he has not played much football at all. When he has started games this season, Blackburn aside, he has played well and scored goals. I sort of hope Mitrovic is sold, because he's been treated like a scapegoat by many for little reasoning and his career is stagnating at a key stage for no reason. He'll go off and have a decent career with someone else and we'll probably look the c***s when he's scoring regularly at a higher level than this - especially if we sell him this January and fail to go up. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 So you hope he's sold just to satisfy your ego? well alright then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 So you hope he's sold just to satisfy your ego? well alright then. That's not even remotely close to what I said. I hope he's sold because he's a decent player being treated like shit for no real reasoning. Why would I want to see Newcastle keep a young player on the bench with no look into the team? Especially one who has been nothing but positive about the club/supporters/city from the outset and has played reasonably well when given the very few opportunities available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 If Rafa 'doesn't rate Mitro' or trust him or whatever, I can understand, sort of. However, buying Daryl Murphy and then selling Mitro significantly weakens our team, which is madness. Murphy as a backup player to Mitro is fine, but it is insanse if we sell Mitro and keep Murphy. If Mitrovic does get sold, we will be buying a striker. Probably Wilson. Probably another 15m to sit on the bench. Why? So we should have two strikers, one good one and one s*** one? Price is irrelevant, we need a squad. Mitrovic isn't good enough and Rafa presumably wants to replace him. How have you come to the conclusion that Mitrovic isn't good enough to be playing for us? We have players in our starting 11 who appear un-droppable who have put in much more shitter performances this season than Mitrovic has. Mitrovic was playing Champions League football prior to joining us, less than two years later and he's suddenly not good enough for the f***ing Championship where the likes of Glenn Murray score regularly Whether Mitrovic is good enough for the PL is a different story, but we're not in the PL. Considering we are struggling to break teams down a lot at the moment, it's incredible that he has not played much football at all. When he has started games this season, Blackburn aside, he has played well and scored goals. I sort of hope Mitrovic is sold, because he's been treated like a scapegoat by many for little reasoning and his career is stagnating at a key stage for no reason. He'll go off and have a decent career with someone else and we'll probably look the c***s when he's scoring regularly at a higher level than this - especially if we sell him this January and fail to go up. You're laughing at Glen Murray scoring regularly in this division, but he is a natural goal scorer whatever else you might think of his game. Still not convinced about Mitrovic, although tbf he hasn't really had much opportunity to prove himself this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 So you hope he's sold just to satisfy your ego? well alright then. That's not even remotely close to what I said. I hope he's sold because he's a decent player being treated like s*** for no real reasoning. So you did say that, who gives a shit what people say man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 If Rafa 'doesn't rate Mitro' or trust him or whatever, I can understand, sort of. However, buying Daryl Murphy and then selling Mitro significantly weakens our team, which is madness. Murphy as a backup player to Mitro is fine, but it is insanse if we sell Mitro and keep Murphy. If Mitrovic does get sold, we will be buying a striker. Probably Wilson. Probably another 15m to sit on the bench. Why? So we should have two strikers, one good one and one s*** one? Price is irrelevant, we need a squad. Mitrovic isn't good enough and Rafa presumably wants to replace him. How have you come to the conclusion that Mitrovic isn't good enough to be playing for us? We have players in our starting 11 who appear un-droppable who have put in much more shitter performances this season than Mitrovic has. Mitrovic was playing Champions League football prior to joining us, less than two years later and he's suddenly not good enough for the f***ing Championship where the likes of Glenn Murray score regularly Whether Mitrovic is good enough for the PL is a different story, but we're not in the PL. Considering we are struggling to break teams down a lot at the moment, it's incredible that he has not played much football at all. When he has started games this season, Blackburn aside, he has played well and scored goals. I sort of hope Mitrovic is sold, because he's been treated like a scapegoat by many for little reasoning and his career is stagnating at a key stage for no reason. He'll go off and have a decent career with someone else and we'll probably look the c***s when he's scoring regularly at a higher level than this - especially if we sell him this January and fail to go up. You're laughing at Glen Murray scoring regularly in this division, but he is a natural goal scorer whatever else you might think of his game. Still not convinced about Mitrovic, although tbf he hasn't really had much opportunity to prove himself this season. He had one real chance to prove himself when Gayle was out. During which he had 4 goals, 1 assist and 2 man of the match performances in 3 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 If Rafa 'doesn't rate Mitro' or trust him or whatever, I can understand, sort of. However, buying Daryl Murphy and then selling Mitro significantly weakens our team, which is madness. Murphy as a backup player to Mitro is fine, but it is insanse if we sell Mitro and keep Murphy. If Mitrovic does get sold, we will be buying a striker. Probably Wilson. Probably another 15m to sit on the bench. Why? So we should have two strikers, one good one and one s*** one? Price is irrelevant, we need a squad. Mitrovic isn't good enough and Rafa presumably wants to replace him. How have you come to the conclusion that Mitrovic isn't good enough to be playing for us? We have players in our starting 11 who appear un-droppable who have put in much more shitter performances this season than Mitrovic has. Mitrovic was playing Champions League football prior to joining us, less than two years later and he's suddenly not good enough for the f***ing Championship where the likes of Glenn Murray score regularly Whether Mitrovic is good enough for the PL is a different story, but we're not in the PL. Considering we are struggling to break teams down a lot at the moment, it's incredible that he has not played much football at all. When he has started games this season, Blackburn aside, he has played well and scored goals. I sort of hope Mitrovic is sold, because he's been treated like a scapegoat by many for little reasoning and his career is stagnating at a key stage for no reason. He'll go off and have a decent career with someone else and we'll probably look the c***s when he's scoring regularly at a higher level than this - especially if we sell him this January and fail to go up. You're laughing at Glen Murray scoring regularly in this division, but he is a natural goal scorer whatever else you might think of his game. Still not convinced about Mitrovic, although tbf he hasn't really had much opportunity to prove himself this season. He had one real chance to prove himself when Gayle was out. During which he had 4 goals, 1 assist and 2 man of the match performances in 3 games. Yeah he's been unlucky, but ultimately you prove yourself over an extended run, not 3 or 4 games. Not his fault he hasn't had the chance but the principle still holds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 So you hope he's sold just to satisfy your ego? well alright then. That's not even remotely close to what I said. I hope he's sold because he's a decent player being treated like s*** for no real reasoning. So you did say that, who gives a s*** what people say man. Only quoting a small piece of my post to satisfy your random thought process. Aye, alright then. And what Kasper said Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Reminds me a bit of the John Dahl Tomasson (sp) situation, different players, different styles, not quite ready but there's definitely something there. Both were beasts in their respective leagues at young ages. Tomasson went on to lead the line at AC Milan and win the Champions League, not sure Mitrovic quite has that much about him, but I don't think anyone thought Tomasson did then either. Either way, I think it'd be mad to willingly let him go unless there is some proven goalscorer we can bring in, which in itself will likely cost more than what Mitrovic will bring in at any rate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartizanFC Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Hehe, great games without Mitro. Why should we put him in squad when we did just fine.We beat mighty Nothingam Forest with this wonderfull tactic.Other games...we was just...unlucky.And we lost just 4 from our last 8 games.That is nothing to worry about.Boldy will come back soon ...just hope Gayle will not pick some injury becouse all other strikers take 27 minutes from start of the season In Rafa we trust!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Reminds me a bit of the John Dahl Tomasson (sp) situation, different players, different styles, not quite ready but there's definitely something there. Both were beasts in their respective leagues at young ages. Tomasson went on to lead the line at AC Milan and win the Champions League, not sure Mitrovic quite has that much about him, but I don't think anyone thought Tomasson did then either. Either way, I think it'd be mad to willingly let him go unless there is some proven goalscorer we can bring in, which in itself will likely cost more than what Mitrovic will bring in at any rate. Good shout. Thing with Tomasson is that he was touted as the best finisher at the club (amid strong competition) and apparently looked a legend in training. I think he had excellent technique but struggled with confidence (here at least). Get the impression Mitro wouldn't shine in training, at least 'technique' wise; suspect Gayle and maybe Perez/others would kick his ass in any finishing competition. However, can't help liking the guy and he is a competitor/does bring something to the team. I personally would be sad to see him go and do think he has the potential to go and achieve at a higher level. Just don't think the decrease in pitch time he has been given bodes well for his future here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Not for sale according for Rafa and will 'play and start'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Unusual of Rafa to talk about who he's starting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Driving the price tag up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Could this be the game that Rafa tries Gayle and Mitro together? He did say he wanted to try it and we have limited options in midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Nah. He'll be with Perez as usual if he starts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Fingers crossed it's nothing too serious :( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Sounds grim. Really feel for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 sell him imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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