Odear Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Oh Rafa.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Surely it's all down to style of play and ours didn't suit his Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 On this showing maybe Rafa could have adapted his methods to accommodate him in some way. Early days though, but I think he will outscore our entire batch of forwards tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 I’m sick of people apologising for Rafa on this one. When you have a striker like that in the club, you play to their strengths and they will get goals. You get goals you stand a chance of winning games. It’s quite simple. He played in a diabolical Steve McClaren side and then barely played for Rafa in a league that he would have torn up if let loose. That doesn’t count as a fair crack at it. If we weren’t gonna play him, we should have loaned him out that season. He would have had a run of games and come back on form for last season perhaps. It leaves a bad taste in the mouth that he’s a Fulham player now. I still wish him all the success in the world, he was black n white through n through. He still loves this club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 I’m sick of people apologising for Rafa on this one. When you have a striker like that in the club, you play to their strengths and they will get goals. You get goals you stand a chance of winning games. It’s quite simple. He played in a diabolical Steve McClaren side and then barely played for Rafa in a league that he would have torn up if let loose. That doesn’t count as a fair crack at it. If we weren’t gonna play him, we should have loaned him out that season. He would have had a run of games and come back on form for last season perhaps. It leaves a bad taste in the mouth that he’s a Fulham player now. I still wish him all the success in the world, he was black n white through n through. He still loves this club. You aren't allowed to question Rafa, did you not get the memo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 I’m sick of people apologising for Rafa on this one. When you have a striker like that in the club, you play to their strengths and they will get goals. You get goals you stand a chance of winning games. It’s quite simple. He played in a diabolical Steve McClaren side and then barely played for Rafa in a league that he would have torn up if let loose. That doesn’t count as a fair crack at it. If we weren’t gonna play him, we should have loaned him out that season. He would have had a run of games and come back on form for last season perhaps. It leaves a bad taste in the mouth that he’s a Fulham player now. I still wish him all the success in the world, he was black n white through n through. He still loves this club. You aren't allowed to question Rafa, did you not get the memo? Rafa will be managing elsewhere from next season. So we won’t have him or Mitro. We'll still have Joselu though, thankfully.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Rafa messed up on this one, and possibly Mbabu, although one is completely unlike the other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Rafa requires player to fully understand and follow his order. Just like Jose Mourinho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 "You play to his strenghts" Yes. You can do that in this league if you spend £105m on players. If you spend -£22m, then no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 think this ongoing debate is a sad indictment of where we are as a club tbh...managers don't fancy players all the fucking time, players go elsewhere and do really well, it happens but generally speaking said clubs replace sold player with either better or different and if that doesn't work out they try again the fact people are still yelping about rafa making a mistake tells its own story really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 How come nobody posted his comments the other day? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 How come nobody posted his comments the other day? Rafa's or Mitro's? Either way could you sum up please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 How come nobody posted his comments the other day? Rafa's or Mitro's? Either way could you sum up please? I'm paraphrasing, but "Rafa wanted me to press from the front, that's not my game, I get tired doing that, my game is crosses in the box, I tried adapting but I couldn't do it." Wish people would move on. He was never going to play under Rafa and asking Rafa to adapt his ways and tactics which have given him so much success down the years to accommodate him is daft. If Rafa was backed it would be more black and white than simply Mitro being sold and proving a world beater whilst Rafa prefers Joselu/Rondon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 I totally get that Rafa isn't immune to criticism, but if at this stage you're not completely on board with his decisions then what is motivating you to bother yourself with the club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 How come nobody posted his comments the other day? Rafa's or Mitro's? Either way could you sum up please? I'm paraphrasing, but "Rafa wanted me to press from the front, that's not my game, I get tired doing that, my game is crosses in the box, I tried adapting but I couldn't do it." Wish people would move on. He was never going to play under Rafa and asking Rafa to adapt his ways and tactics which have given him so much success down the years to accommodate him is daft. If Rafa was backed it would be more black and white than simply Mitro being sold and proving a world beater whilst Rafa prefers Joselu/Rondon. This. The sensible solution was for Rafa to be backed with a striker he wanted. Whether it can be claimed Rondon is that backing is another matter. However, assuming Rafa is leaving at the end of the season and we have only loaned Rondon, in retrospect it's a shame we didn't loan Mitro out. A new manager probably would have played to his strengths and can't help but feel that we'll be a lot weaker next summer without him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 How come nobody posted his comments the other day? Rafa's or Mitro's? Either way could you sum up please? I'm paraphrasing, but "Rafa wanted me to press from the front, that's not my game, I get tired doing that, my game is crosses in the box, I tried adapting but I couldn't do it." Wish people would move on. He was never going to play under Rafa and asking Rafa to adapt his ways and tactics which have given him so much success down the years to accommodate him is daft. If Rafa was backed it would be more black and white than simply Mitro being sold and proving a world beater whilst Rafa prefers Joselu/Rondon. The I get tired doing that tells you everything you need to know. Better teams can accommodate him but we need every player to have a serious engine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 How come nobody posted his comments the other day? Rafa's or Mitro's? Either way could you sum up please? I'm paraphrasing, but "Rafa wanted me to press from the front, that's not my game, I get tired doing that, my game is crosses in the box, I tried adapting but I couldn't do it." Wish people would move on. He was never going to play under Rafa and asking Rafa to adapt his ways and tactics which have given him so much success down the years to accommodate him is daft. If Rafa was backed it would be more black and white than simply Mitro being sold and proving a world beater whilst Rafa prefers Joselu/Rondon. This. The sensible solution was for Rafa to be backed with a striker he wanted. Whether it can be claimed Rondon is that backing is another matter. However, assuming Rafa is leaving at the end of the season and we have only loaned Rondon, in retrospect it's a shame we didn't loan Mitro out. A new manager probably would have played to his strengths and can't help but feel that we'll be a lot weaker next summer without him. Fuck this shit. Fuck this shit because Ashley is likely to be here still; so what's the point of the above? If that goes to plan (a new manager complementing Mitro), then I'm sure there is something else that Ashley would have fucked up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Second goal last neet was mint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 How come nobody posted his comments the other day? Rafa's or Mitro's? Either way could you sum up please? I'm paraphrasing, but "Rafa wanted me to press from the front, that's not my game, I get tired doing that, my game is crosses in the box, I tried adapting but I couldn't do it." Wish people would move on. He was never going to play under Rafa and asking Rafa to adapt his ways and tactics which have given him so much success down the years to accommodate him is daft. If Rafa was backed it would be more black and white than simply Mitro being sold and proving a world beater whilst Rafa prefers Joselu/Rondon. This. The sensible solution was for Rafa to be backed with a striker he wanted. Whether it can be claimed Rondon is that backing is another matter. However, assuming Rafa is leaving at the end of the season and we have only loaned Rondon, in retrospect it's a shame we didn't loan Mitro out. A new manager probably would have played to his strengths and can't help but feel that we'll be a lot weaker next summer without him. Fuck this shit. Fuck this shit because Ashley is likely to be here still; so what's the point of the above? If that goes to plan (a new manager complementing Mitro), then I'm sure there is something else that Ashley would have fucked up. Sorry mate, this is the Mitrovich thread. Obviously we could post on every thread that it's pointless discussing <insert thread name> because of Ashley, in which case let's lock the football forum down and replace with a sub-forum called Mike Ashley, with one thread also called Mike Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Second goal last neet was mint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 I’m sick of people apologising for Rafa on this one. When you have a striker like that in the club, you play to their strengths and they will get goals. You get goals you stand a chance of winning games. It’s quite simple. He played in a diabolical Steve McClaren side and then barely played for Rafa in a league that he would have torn up if let loose. That doesn’t count as a fair crack at it. If we weren’t gonna play him, we should have loaned him out that season. He would have had a run of games and come back on form for last season perhaps. It leaves a bad taste in the mouth that he’s a Fulham player now. I still wish him all the success in the world, he was black n white through n through. He still loves this club. You're questioning a man that has won everything there is to win in the game!!! Saying Rafa should adapt his clearly very successful methods to accommodate one player is absolute lunacy. 'Ere Rafa, i know you've won multiple league titles, and the Champions League with a rank outsider but my expert opinion is that you're wrong and you should change your winning ways to work around Mitrovic because he's class' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Not to mention that we were successful (won the Championship and finished 10th) in both seasons that Mitrovic wasn't getting a look in. Rafa's not free of criticism, but I'm yet to see a criticism of him where Mitrovic is concerned that actually makes any sense within the way Rafa has had us setup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Doesn't play for us anymore, let's move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 "You play to his strenghts" Yes. You can do that in this league if you spend £105m on players. If you spend -£22m, then no. this ^ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 If Rafa didn't want him that's all i need to know. Trust him 100%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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