Astroblack Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Tom Cairney said he's the best player in the team on Soccer AM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 I watched him the other week or weekend and he doesn’t play any different in terms of his game. It’s just that Fulham get in far more crosses, he plays higher up and very centrally and they support him in numbers around him and in the box. I still look at him and see nothing but an average player and a slow huff and puff one at that though. But he’s banging them in for them and good luck to him. A fairly organised defence and an equally strong CB paired against him would deal with him easy enough though IMO. In short he doesn’t have much in his locker and if he’s not scoring, he’s not much of a threat or brings a great deal else to the table. He’s obviously better than anyone else we have mind so... He is better than what we have though by a long way and his scoring record against the top teams is not to bad either - Man City, Tottenham (x3) and Man utd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 2 on top Mitro and Ayose or Muto. Play the small guys of him, use him as a target man - also to bully the defenders and use the flanks and good crossers. That recipe is better than what we do now imo. a little disapointed we never really saw it properly over a longer periode. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 2 on top Mitro and Ayose or Muto. Play the small guys of him, use him as a target man - also to bully the defenders and use the flanks and good crossers. That recipe is better than what we do now imo. a little disapointed we never really saw it properly over a longer periode. This is where I mean we could have accommodated him by tweaking things. Have the number 10 do the chasing and closing down from the front for instance. Perez and Muto could have done that job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 I watched him the other week or weekend and he doesn’t play any different in terms of his game. It’s just that Fulham get in far more crosses, he plays higher up and very centrally and they support him in numbers around him and in the box. I still look at him and see nothing but an average player and a slow huff and puff one at that though. But he’s banging them in for them and good luck to him. A fairly organised defence and an equally strong CB paired against him would deal with him easy enough though IMO. In short he doesn’t have much in his locker and if he’s not scoring, he’s not much of a threat or brings a great deal else to the table. He’s obviously better than anyone else we have mind so... He is better than what we have though by a long way and his scoring record against the top teams is not to bad either - Man City, Tottenham (x3) and Man utd Saying he is better than what we have is subjective, obviously he wasn't prepared to do what Rafa needed him to do so he was pointless according to our manager. Rafa put his faith in Rondon, and I'm still prepared to see how that works out. Hopefully it won't take another two months before he starts showing all the stuff he can do better for our formation than Mitro could. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 I watched him the other week or weekend and he doesn’t play any different in terms of his game. It’s just that Fulham get in far more crosses, he plays higher up and very centrally and they support him in numbers around him and in the box. I still look at him and see nothing but an average player and a slow huff and puff one at that though. But he’s banging them in for them and good luck to him. A fairly organised defence and an equally strong CB paired against him would deal with him easy enough though IMO. In short he doesn’t have much in his locker and if he’s not scoring, he’s not much of a threat or brings a great deal else to the table. He’s obviously better than anyone else we have mind so... He is better than what we have though by a long way and his scoring record against the top teams is not to bad either - Man City, Tottenham (x3) and Man utd Saying he is better than what we have is subjective, obviously he wasn't prepared to do what Rafa needed him to do so he was pointless according to our manager. Rafa put his faith in Rondon, and I'm still prepared to see how that works out. Hopefully it won't take another two months before he starts showing all the stuff he can do better for our formation than Mitro could. Think you be waiting a long time but we will see, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixx Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Said it before but at the end of the season he's going to have scored more than all of our strikers combined. I'm almost a 100% positive that the gripe Rafa has with him is on a personal/mental note, not ability-wise or whether he fits into a certain style of play or not. It happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 How do you guys have the energy to write the same posts every week about another club's player who did nothing that special during his time here? Although you're just copy pasting so I guess there's not much effort involved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 How do people have the energy to get annoyed about whom is interesting to talk about and not for others? I see the same here and in the Ben Arfa thread. If Mitrovic is of no concern or interest, nobody is forcing anyone to read through this thread. Let others who liked or disliked the player discuss as they want about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 I'm not annoyed. I just dont understand it so I asked a question. I also dont understand how you can compare it to Ben Arfa. In 10 years time Mitrovic will be like Sibierski when it comes to the history of Newcastle players. And Ben Arfa will continue to be one of the most skillful players to have ever played for the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 I’ve been unimpressed with Rondon mind, I’ve been more impressed with Joselu in comparison... Back to Mitrovic, he’s undoubtedly playing with more confidence at Fulham which obviously comes from playing every week and having the confidence of his manager and team-mates backing him up, but I did notice Fulham seem to create a lot of action in the opposition box or around it which any striker never mind Mitrovic must look at and think there’s opportunities to score or test the keeper here. That’s something we rarely see at Newcastle and that helps no-one up front for us regardless and makes it hard for any striker to leave their mark. A real quality striker will help in that respect, but watching us even such a player if we had one would struggle because we just don’t get enough bodies up in support or in the box. The action areas in our games offensively seem to be midfield more than any other area and by some distance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 How do you guys have the energy to write the same posts every week about another club's player who did nothing that special during his time here? Although you're just copy pasting so I guess there's not much effort involved. It's not just about the player for me, it's about Rafa's judgement which I have backed so far. When we are struggling to find a striker who can score goals, and we pushed out one who has been banging them in for 6 months, I do find that at least as interesting as most other topics right now. Not that Rafa is infallible obviously, but I am keen to see what Rondon will bring since there was so much fuss as to why Mitro was a poor fit for Rafa's preferred system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 I’ve been unimpressed with Rondon mind, I’ve been more impressed with Joselu in comparison... Back to Mitrovic, he’s undoubtedly playing with more confidence at Fulham which obviously comes from playing every week and having the confidence of his manager and team-mates backing him up, but I did notice Fulham seem to create a lot of action in the opposition box or around it which any striker never mind Mitrovic must look at and think there’s opportunities to score or test the keeper here. That’s something we rarely see at Newcastle and that helps no-one up front for us regardless and makes it hard for any striker to leave their mark. A real quality striker will help in that respect, but watching us even such a player if we had one would struggle because we just don’t get enough bodies up in support or in the box. The action areas in our games offensively seem to be midfield more than any other area and by some distance. Mind it will be interesting to see if Fulham finish ahead of us at the end of the season regardless of how many Mitrovic scores. I know they've spent a lot of money so not sure it's an even contest any more though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 The sad thing is, we’re miles away from even trying to sign another promising young striker from Europe. However mitrovic turns out, it was a fairly exciting transfer at the time. Since him we’ve signed Joselu, slimani and Rondón. Edit: although I forgot about muto. Meh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 He's showing that if you can get quality deliveries into the box - he will score you goals. Not just with headers but he's showing the ability to overpower defenders at this level in the box to create space and score goals. I was concerned it would come back to haunt us this transfer with only Rondon in. That's the price we pay with riding with Benitez. Overall, I think it's worth it but Benitez needs to be backed. He was backed in the Championship and brought in good players. Knocking around the bargain basement in the PL's he brought in some dross. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 His goal the other week mind was decent, in terms of his movement and finishing. If he was quick and had better technical ability he’d be worth double what he went for. He’s one player I don’t look at and think fuck him because he didn’t want to move and doesn’t seem the type to think he is bigger or better than his club or team-mates. I’ve been critical of him at times and still regard him as an average footballer, but he was underused by Rafa regardless and it will leave a sour taste in the mouth if he fires Fulham to safety through his goals and we go down due to a lack of firepower. Alas, had we spent the fee we got for him on an actual quality replacement, the spectre of Mitrovic and this whole debate would quickly drop from the first page of the forum and the minds of fans... Instead we got Rondon and because he’s injured in comes Joselu... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 The sad thing is, we’re miles away from even trying to sign another promising young striker from Europe. However mitrovic turns out, it was a fairly exciting transfer at the time. Since him we’ve signed Joselu, slimani and Rondón. Edit: although I forgot about muto. Meh. I knew nothing of him or had ever seen him play so had no feeling positive or negative towards his signing, but I remember a good number were quite happy to see him join us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 His goal the other week mind was decent, in terms of his movement and finishing. If he was quick and had better technical ability he’d be worth double what he went for. He’s one player I don’t look at and think fuck him because he didn’t want to move and doesn’t seem the type to think he is bigger or better than his club or team-mates. I’ve been critical of him at times and still regard him as an average footballer, but he was underused by Rafa regardless and it will leave a sour taste in the mouth if he fires Fulham to safety through his goals and we go down due to a lack of firepower. Alas, had we spent the fee we got for him on an actual quality replacement, the spectre of Mitrovic and this whole debate would quickly drop from the first page of the forum and the minds of fans... Instead we got Rondon and because he’s injured in comes Joselu... You’d be lucky to get a better striker for £30m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 30m these days gets you not a lot sadly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Maybe I'm harsh, but still think this lad is a bit of a donkey (albeit an in form one) and would struggle really badly if isolated up front in Rafa's system, asked to make runs off the ball, and starved of service because our wingers/full backs are really shit at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Maybe I'm harsh, but still think this lad is a bit of a donkey (albeit an in form one) and would struggle really badly if isolated up front in Rafa's system, asked to make runs off the ball, and starved of service because our wingers/full backs are really s*** at the moment. Wouldn't say he is a donkey, but i know where you're coming from, be amazed if he keeps this up all season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Rafa's only fuck up as our manager in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Rafa's only fuck up as our manager in my opinion. I'd chuck in signing Manquillo who is utterly dreadful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Rafa's only fuck up as our manager in my opinion. I'd chuck in signing Manquillo who is utterly dreadful. Was probably Manquillo or no-one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Rafa's only fuck up as our manager in my opinion. I'd chuck in signing Manquillo who is utterly dreadful. Was probably Manquillo or no-one. Mbabu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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