Bimpy474 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Rafa's only fuck up as our manager in my opinion. I'd chuck in signing Manquillo who is utterly dreadful. Was probably Manquillo or no-one. Mbabu As Joeyt has said, Mbabu...tbf hindsight is a wonderful thing as Mbabu is far superior. Also Dummett as a full back is limited but at least gives you a decent defender a fair amount of the time, Manquillo offers nothing absolutely nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Rafa's only fuck up as our manager in my opinion. I'd chuck in signing Manquillo who is utterly dreadful. Was probably Manquillo or no-one. Mbabu Eranu imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Rafa's only fuck up as our manager in my opinion. I'd chuck in signing Manquillo who is utterly dreadful. Jesus Gamez never played - and came out this week saying something against Rafa. He signed a few rubbish players for Liverpool too; he's not perfect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 He did and to be fair he will do, he's working within our limits and undoubtedly when he's making signings he's signing none of his first or even second choice players. Back him properly and you'll see less fuck ups. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Rafa's only f*** up as our manager in my opinion. Not his only mistake but probably his biggest. He didn’t HAVE to sell Mitro. But he did while knowing he probably wouldn’t be replaced by anyone decent. The writing was on the wall all summer. So Rafa can either be labelled very naive (which is bullshit) or overly stubborn as we're clearly not better off without him ok the squad. Shite transfer fee too when you think about it. He’ll go to a much bigger club in 9 months for double or treble the fee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Think Rafa just has a big team mentality. He’s used to being able to replace troublesome players with better players or players better suited to the system. You have to be a bit more flexible when managing a team like us especially with such a tight owner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Rafa's only fuck up as our manager in my opinion. I'd chuck in signing Manquillo who is utterly dreadful. Jesus Gamez never played - and came out this week saying something against Rafa. He signed a few rubbish players for Liverpool too; he's not perfect. Rafa said himself that as a manager around a 70% success rate in transfers is what you're hoping for, or something very similiar, make him bang on about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Not bumped when he's anonymous for 90 mins then? Ciaran Clark has more goals against Arsenal this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Such a pointless stat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 no shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Plea scored again yesterday, fwiw. If we don't spend the fee, Mitro effectively left on a free transfer. Rafa did so much research he got RSI from looking at players on his computer. He must have assumed we would be signing some. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsprillasShinPad Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Plea scored again yesterday, fwiw. If we don't spend the fee, Mitro effectively left on a free transfer. Rafa did so much research he got RSI from looking at players on his computer. He must have assumed we would be signing some. All transfer fees go to the FCB. Ever since Carroll went and we didn't see a penny of the £35m, I just assume that nothing gets recycled to the manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Plea scored again yesterday, fwiw. If we don't spend the fee, Mitro effectively left on a free transfer. Rafa did so much research he got RSI from looking at players on his computer. He must have assumed we would be signing some. Scored in the last 5 in a row. Second highest top scorer as well. Couldn't get him though, would've upset Joselu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Plea scored again yesterday, fwiw. If we don't spend the fee, Mitro effectively left on a free transfer. Rafa did so much research he got RSI from looking at players on his computer. He must have assumed we would be signing some. Is it a bit like Fifa/Pes/ FM on his computer. He knows what cunts he works under, so he sets the search to find all players under 5m returning nothing,then trolling through the free agents, but he's compromised with the wages of most of the free agents. So he targets loans but he's also fucked down that avenue as now everyone else lives in the modern world where wages are above 70kpw for a regular /average player he realises he's limited to One loan. Then he just thinks fuck this I'm wasting my life at this shithouse, I will just run down my existing contract and get some self respect back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Plea scored again yesterday, fwiw. If we don't spend the fee, Mitro effectively left on a free transfer. Rafa did so much research he got RSI from looking at players on his computer. He must have assumed we would be signing some. Scored in the last 5 in a row. Second highest top scorer as well. Couldn't get him though, would've upset Joselu. Supposedly he didn't want to come here, his chairman at Nice said he preferred the move to Germany even though our offer was a better deal for Nice. Of course there's no way of telling if our interest was genuine with the way this club works, but Plea did actually suggest that he was interested in a move to Spain because "La Liga is a league that’s very technical and is suited to attackers.” He ended up in Germany eventually, but you do wonder if he really fancied the Premier, allegedly West Ham and Spurs were interested as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Plea scored again yesterday, fwiw. If we don't spend the fee, Mitro effectively left on a free transfer. Rafa did so much research he got RSI from looking at players on his computer. He must have assumed we would be signing some. Scored in the last 5 in a row. Second highest top scorer as well. Couldn't get him though, would've upset Joselu. Supposedly he didn't want to come here, his chairman at Nice said he preferred the move to Germany even though our offer was a better deal for Nice. Of course there's no way of telling if our interest was genuine with the way this club works, but Plea did actually suggest that he was interested in a move to Spain because "La Liga is a league that’s very technical and is suited to attackers.” He ended up in Germany eventually, but you do wonder if he really fancied the Premier, allegedly West Ham and Spurs were interested as well. The whole thing just stank of a 'we tried' ploy. As soon as BMG came in with an offer we just gave up. A player like him coming in for finally a deal over our record fee would've lifted the mundane feeling felt throughout the window which was swept into the season itself. Sick of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Plea scored again yesterday, fwiw. If we don't spend the fee, Mitro effectively left on a free transfer. Rafa did so much research he got RSI from looking at players on his computer. He must have assumed we would be signing some. Scored in the last 5 in a row. Second highest top scorer as well. Couldn't get him though, would've upset Joselu. Supposedly he didn't want to come here, his chairman at Nice said he preferred the move to Germany even though our offer was a better deal for Nice. Of course there's no way of telling if our interest was genuine with the way this club works, but Plea did actually suggest that he was interested in a move to Spain because "La Liga is a league that’s very technical and is suited to attackers.” He ended up in Germany eventually, but you do wonder if he really fancied the Premier, allegedly West Ham and Spurs were interested as well. It's impossible to know. I'm under the impression that every competent club/manager informally makes contacts with players (or their agents) that they're interested in to see if the player will want to sign. It's tapping up, but everyone does it and gets away with it especially if the player is looking to move or the club is willing to sell. Same way that Keegan lined up Modric, or Hyppia, before we had even put a bid in. Rafa did this with Loftus Cheek and Tammy Abraham. So it's safe to assume Rafa had checked that Plea would be open to a move here. And I imagine he's one of the many players on our managers shortlists over the years who has no desire to wait for a mediocre yo-yo club like NUFC, with it's pitiful training facilities, rusting stadium and tacky yellow sports Poundland equivalent logos plastered everywhere, to maybe eventually make a (derisory) bid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 A player going to a new club and saying it was the only club he ever wanted to go when he heard they were interested? STOP THE PRESS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Plea scored again yesterday, fwiw. If we don't spend the fee, Mitro effectively left on a free transfer. Rafa did so much research he got RSI from looking at players on his computer. He must have assumed we would be signing some. Scored in the last 5 in a row. Second highest top scorer as well. Couldn't get him though, would've upset Joselu. Supposedly he didn't want to come here, his chairman at Nice said he preferred the move to Germany even though our offer was a better deal for Nice. Of course there's no way of telling if our interest was genuine with the way this club works, but Plea did actually suggest that he was interested in a move to Spain because "La Liga is a league that’s very technical and is suited to attackers.” He ended up in Germany eventually, but you do wonder if he really fancied the Premier, allegedly West Ham and Spurs were interested as well. It's impossible to know. I'm under the impression that every competent club/manager informally makes contacts with players (or their agents) that they're interested in to see if the player will want to sign. It's tapping up, but everyone does it and gets away with it especially if the player is looking to move or the club is willing to sell. Same way that Keegan lined up Modric, or Hyppia, before we had even put a bid in. Rafa did this with Loftus Cheek and Tammy Abraham. So it's safe to assume Rafa had checked that Plea would be open to a move here. And I imagine he's one of the many players on our managers shortlists over the years who has no desire to wait for a mediocre yo-yo club like NUFC, with it's pitiful training facilities, rusting stadium and tacky yellow sports Poundland equivalent logos plastered everywhere, to maybe eventually make a (derisory) bid. Yeah I get that, and then of course when you have a genuine world class manager involved in the process, that can make a massive difference. Keegan would have fancied his chances of luring Modric just as he did with Ginola in the old days, pretty sure Rafa would equally be a lot more persuasive than Charnley. It's infuriating, but ultimately only Rafa will know the truth of it, as you say, a manager of his calibre will have probably sounded out the player's representatives himself to see if there was any mileage in it. Ultimately you can only judge this board on deals they actually manage to secure, and they are all low budget ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsprillasShinPad Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 It must be properly painful for Rafa trying to sell this club to potential signings. We're like a battered 200,000 mile Ford Ka surrounded by brand new Ferraris at the minute. A club properly in decay. No hope of ever winning anything; the only reason to come here is to get into the PL shop window and hope for a move to a bigger club like Crystal Palace or Fulham. Properly wank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 The owner doesn't give a shit, the manager is leaving, we're in the relegation zone and the facilities look like a scout camp, what's not to like? Should make a point of showing them the borehole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Scored more goals than Ciaran Clark against Montenegro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Scored more goals than Ciaran Clark against Montenegro Clark hasn't played against Montenegro this season m8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Reckon he would have loved the crossing game we were trying last night..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Reckon he would have loved the crossing game we were trying last night..... The two striker system he needs isn't working so well for Fulham either like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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