mozy Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Small sample size but in CL games he won 1.2 aerial duels per game, which is fairly useless. On the plus side, you'd assume he's an excellent ground defender, probably quick too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Small sample size but in CL games he won 1.2 aerial duels per game, which is fairly useless. On the plus side, you'd assume he's an excellent ground defender, probably quick too. No ta. I'd rudite have Williamson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppe Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Small sample size but in CL games he won 1.2 aerial duels per game, which is fairly useless. On the plus side, you'd assume he's an excellent ground defender, probably quick too. No ta. I'd rudite have Williamson. How many duels was he involved in then? If two, those stats are decent. If 100, then not so much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Short central defenders? Fabio Cannavaro says hi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Exceptions exist. Thing about exceptions... Ofc, I get the impression Mbemba may just be an exception. Wonder whether Fabio, Puyol etc get partnered with giants deliberately... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Short central defenders? Fabio Cannavaro says hi. Can't think of any who've been successful in the PL, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 5'11 isn't short. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 It is for a CB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Probable Giggs but: Mbemba’s agent Fabio Baglio also stated there was long-term interest on the star. He said: “The interest of English does not date from yesterday. “The head of scouting Newcastle came to see Chancel during Champions League match in Dortmund. “He was impressed, and Newcastle continued to follow Chancel. “Since the club had the means to the amount requested, the negotiations were quick.” That match was seven months ago. And guess who scored for Anderlecht. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 It is for a CB Possibly in relation to the average sized CB, but not short enough to make you worried. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deckard 13 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 You can be shorter and its OK if you are fast and you can be taller and slower and its OK if you are good in the air. It's a partnership. Let's get this guy someone who he can compliment. I know nowt about Matip but apparently he's a big lad. Or just play him with Iron Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Small sample size but in CL games he won 1.2 aerial duels per game, which is fairly useless. On the plus side, you'd assume he's an excellent ground defender, probably quick too. No ta. I'd rudite have Williamson. How many duels was he involved in then? If two, those stats are decent. If 100, then not so much. It was 12 arial duels total in those 6 Champions League games and he won 7 of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 You can be shorter and its OK if you are fast and you can be taller and slower and its OK if you are good in the air. It's a partnership. Let's get this guy someone who he can compliment. I know nowt about Matip but apparently he's a big lad. Or just play him with Iron Mike. I know you're joking like but it never stops amazing me how bad Williamson is, tall slow defender with the heading ability of a midget Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deckard 13 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 You can be shorter and its OK if you are fast and you can be taller and slower and its OK if you are good in the air. It's a partnership. Let's get this guy someone who he can compliment. I know nowt about Matip but apparently he's a big lad. Or just play him with Iron Mike. I know you're joking like but it never stops amazing me how bad Williamson is, tall slow defender with the heading ability of a midget He couldn't win a header if he was the only one in the box. But he is tall! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Gallas! I label him the new Gallas. There have been a few successful shorter CB's but they seem to be exceptions, we obviously need a tall defender that isn't pigshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Probable Giggs but: Mbemba’s agent Fabio Baglio also stated there was long-term interest on the star. He said: “The interest of English does not date from yesterday. “The head of scouting Newcastle came to see Chancel during Champions League match in Dortmund. “He was impressed, and Newcastle continued to follow Chancel. “Since the club had the means to the amount requested, the negotiations were quick.” That match was seven months ago. And guess who scored for Anderlecht. Wasn't it reported at the time that Carr was there? Might have been a different game, I don't know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Ashley Williams has always struck me as quite small for a physical CB. Wiki says he's 182cm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 It's called jumping. It's called positioning. And it's called strength. All of which can mitigate the height issue. Williamson has shit leaping ability and is poor body positioning. He has 0 explosive power. Therefore he's generally crap at heading. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Already writing him off or complaining. Love this place sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Already writing him off or complaining. Love this place sometimes. Who's written him off like? All that people have said is that we will have to partner him with somebody taller Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Based off of the fact that he's 5'11 and its assumed that his height will be a problem when nobody has really seen much of him to know of his leaping ability or if he actually players larger or than he looks? That's all I'm saying. Lubo Satka is 6'2 and played like a tiny CM the other night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 FWIW, I still want us to sign a towering CB like Matip or Abdennour. But whatever... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Based off of the fact that he's 5'11 and its assumed that his height will be a problem when nobody has really seen much of him to know of his leaping ability or if he actually players larger or than he looks? That's all I'm saying. Lubo Satka is 6'2 and played like a tiny CM the other night. Aye I agree but preferably you would have another 6'2+ centre half who also has those positioning and leaping skills. You definitely need at least one, probably two at least 6'2 players in your team or you'll concede a lot from set pieces. You are going to meet defenders and strikers that are massive and know how to use their strength and height effectively and you need someone big enough to at least put them off when they go for a header Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 I agree all CBs need to be good in the air IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Based off of the fact that he's 5'11 and its assumed that his height will be a problem when nobody has really seen much of him to know of his leaping ability or if he actually players larger or than he looks? That's all I'm saying. Lubo Satka is 6'2 and played like a tiny CM the other night. Aye I agree but preferably you would have another 6'2+ centre half who also has those positioning and leaping skills. You definitely need at least one, probably two at least 6'2 players in your team or you'll concede a lot from set pieces. You are going to meet defenders and strikers that are massive and know how to use their strength and height effectively and you need someone big enough to at least put them off when they go for a header Shearer, at 6ft scored most of his headers for us from set pieces, against those 6'2 and 6'3 defenders. I buy these "we need 6'2 centre halves" as much as I buy the "we need wingers" argument. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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