r0cafella Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, ManDoon said: 6 Attempted challengesx, 50% win rate. LOL To be fair she’s not at all suited to that role imo. Especially with Schar being good with the ball. We don’t even have runners going beyond Wood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ManDoon Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Oh yeah he's dreadful, he has basically no anticpation of the game, times his challenges horrifically, doesn't even really block passing lanes or pressure opponents. I'd love to play against him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, ManDoon said: Oh yeah he's dreadful, he has basically no anticpation of the game, times his challenges horrifically, doesn't even really block passing lanes or pressure opponents. I'd love to play against him. We would look like Pirlo playing against that gormless twat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 So fucked off with this guy's half-arsedness towards the end of the game yday. In his position he should be setting the tone so much more but instead he's selling out his teammates with garbage passes. Pretty sure one of them ultimately led to the equaliser, when he gave a shit pass to Joe in the middle of the pitch who ultimately lost it or caused a foul or something. Just keep the ball for fuck fucking's sake. If we don't sign a CM we're fucked. Genuinely believe we coud just about get away without a CB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ManDoon Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Yorkie said: So fucked off with this guy's half-arsedness towards the end of the game yday. In his position he should be setting the tone so much more but instead he's selling out his teammates with garbage passes. Pretty sure one of them ultimately led to the equaliser, when he gave a shit pass to Joe in the middle of the pitch who ultimately lost it or caused a foul or something. Just keep the ball for fuck fucking's sake. If we don't sign a CM we're fucked. Genuinely believe we coud just about get away without a CB. Nah, Trippier played a ball up to wood that was fine, but his touch was very poor on his chest and he lost it. Not on Shelvey that one. Grainy image I know, but he doesn't control it with his chest at all and loses the ball. I feel like I have a vendetta against Wood lol, but yeah that;s what happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 ManDoon: “Have I mentioned that I don’t rate Chris Wood?” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ManDoon Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: ManDoon: “Have I mentioned that I don’t rate Chris Wood?” nah I’ve noticed myself doing it. It’s some weird ADHD trait where I hyperfixate on one issue. Shelvey is dog water. Wood or no Wood Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Ha. To be fair, I actually remember Wood losing the ball prior to the goal. Surprised more people didn’t pick up on it. Although a lot had to happen between that and the header. So not really too much on him. He certainly didn’t help, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ManDoon Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 16 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: Ha. To be fair, I actually remember Wood losing the ball prior to the goal. Surprised more people didn’t pick up on it. Although a lot had to happen between that and the header. So not really too much on him. He certainly didn’t help, mind. Yeah definitely not on him entirely. I think Dummett was too shattered to stop the cross. Should have been subbed around 70 mins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, ManDoon said: Nah, Trippier played a ball up to wood that was fine, but his touch was very poor on his chest and he lost it. Not on Shelvey that one. Grainy image I know, but he doesn't control it with his chest at all and loses the ball. I feel like I have a vendetta against Wood lol, but yeah that;s what happened. Fair enough, if that immediately preceded the goal itself then obviously Wood is accountable too. But it'll have been just before that, I'm sure. Shelvey, in that position, arguably has more responsibility than most when it comes to setting the tone in possession and he just doesn't. Farcical the way he was putting teammates under pressure so late in the game when it's so critical that we don't do owt daft. I get that it's a difficult role but his positive influence:negative influence ratio is all to cock. Aye he might play a decent pass here and there but his other limitations ultimately set us back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ManDoon Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Yorkie said: Fair enough, if that immediately preceded the goal itself then obviously Wood is accountable too. But it'll have been just before that, I'm sure. Shelvey, in that position, arguably has more responsibility than most when it comes to setting the tone in possession and he just doesn't. Farcical the way he was putting teammates under pressure so late in the game when it's so critical that we don't do owt daft. I get that it's a difficult role but his positive influence:negative influence ratio is all to cock. Aye he might play a decent pass here and there but his other limitations ultimately set us back. Oh yeah it wasn’t a defense of a Shelvey just he wasn’t at fault for that particular goal. Ball from trippier was fine, miscontrolled is error 1, Dummett too tired to stop the cross, then Lascelles beaten easily Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 We're arguing over minor details but I do think he was at fault, even if it wasn't his mistake which immediately preceded the goal. He's in an influential position and someone better would've helped see the game out, rather than having him set the tone by consistently making errors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Make him captain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Nah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 I remember the Swansea poster @Groo calling him out as lazy when we bought him. He wasn't good enough for them and that was more than 5 years ago. I think that says it all about this squad, and more particularly about Shelvey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 not his greatest fan but he stopped a certain goal first half but had to take a yellow for it. should have been taken off there and then cos he played like he was scared of getting a second yellow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, huss9 said: not his greatest fan but he stopped a certain goal first half but had to take a yellow for it. should have been taken off there and then cos he played like he was scared of getting a second yellow. He gets yellows because he's too slow to catch opponents fairly. I don't actually have any problem with his coverage of ground, he does get up and down the pitch, just very slowly so he's usually just behind the action. If you could design a skill set opposite of N'golo Kante, Shelvey would be it. Edited January 16, 2022 by TRon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 45 minutes ago, GWN said: Make him captain Are you joking ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 In fairness to Shelvey he's one of the few players who doesn't completely shit himself on the ball. He is a lazy cunt mind and needs replacing asap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Alberto2005 said: In fairness to Shelvey he's one of the few players who doesn't completely shit himself on the ball. He is a lazy cunt mind and needs replacing asap. Yeah he either decides to give the opponent a easy steal pass or go a simple pass to him being stationary again. what a player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, huss9 said: not his greatest fan but he stopped a certain goal first half but had to take a yellow for it. should have been taken off there and then cos he played like he was scared of getting a second yellow. He should've been first to the ball, rather than flattening the Watford man. I'm fucking sick to death of watching him so he doesn't get a free pass, ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 As predicted he has played out of his skin for the new manager. Makes him look average again. We are probably starting to see the usual gradual decline into laziness. Desperately need to sign a DM so we can drop shelvey and play willock or almiron through the middle as AM, where they are most effective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just watched a replay of the Watford goal again, he trotted back and then stopped right in front of the danger area. He's 6ft for fuck's sake, just get in there and help your defence you fucking fraud. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 The game management from Dubravka is also pathetic btw. He quickly rolls the ball put after collecting it when he should've dove on top of it, waste time and let everyone get back in shape. Atrocious stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: The game management from Dubravka is also pathetic btw. He quickly rolls the ball put after collecting it when he should've dove on top of it, waste time and let everyone get back in shape. Atrocious stuff. Nah man, that's just following instruction, he can't be held responsible for other people losing the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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