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Jonjo Shelvey (now playing for Burnley)


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What boils my piss with Jonjo is that he shared a dressing room with likes of Gerrard, Carragher, even fucking Craig Bellamy - and seemingly learn't fuck all. Likely down to his personality. I don't think he's lazy by mindset - if he was he, you simply can't be lazy in application to sustain a PL career even under Bruce.

 

Not everyone can be James Milner, hungry for the power - I can accept why I would take exception to him being lazy. 

 

Aye, I've never believed for once he's not trying his best - but I'm sure if we hoyed a 39 year old Xabi Alonso in our midfield, he'd be able to ping balls around too.

 

JS has a 'shithouse aggression' in him, but it's never throughout his career been channelled correctly. Each season he just continuity fucks himself, and the team.

 

Whatever is said about Wor Jonjo, I'll still stand by the fact he's one of the best players to ever grace the second tier of English football. That 16/17 he was the Zidane of the Championship - Tarrabt QPR, Merson Portsmouth, Shelvey Newcastle

 

 

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He’s basically not a very good footballer, for all the praise of his passing, yes he does have good technique, but I could hit a 70-yard ball to feet or space under zero pressure or with space and time, it’s not a skill, it’s a technique.
 

He is lazy, he has a poor attitude to training, to self improvement and fitness, to his own game, to his team-mates and to in game demands. He is very lucky to still be playing at a high level for NUFC in the top-flight, there are harder working, more committed and overall more talented players in the Championship and all over lesser leagues in Europe.

 

He’s a luxury player basically, but a very poor one; mutton dressed as lamb! I’d be happy to never seem him wear our shirt again along with the majority of them, that will happen in due course.

 

In the mean-time if Howe can get some kind of tune out of him, good, any asset no matter how invaluable long-term, is valuable at the moment for our cause and needs. He played really well last weekend, really well. hopefully he can maintain that until we are safe and then be shot of!

 

 

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Personally I think he's a good footballer and a poor athlete, with a bad attitude to boot.

 

As much as I dislike him, IMO to say he can only ping a ball is a bit of a disservice to him.

He's pretty good at most of the technical elements of the game; his close control under pressure is pretty decent and is often able to manoeuvre himself well enough to retain the ball. He can certainly see a pass under pressure and make it, be it short or long - which is more of a skill IMO than just being able to "ping it".

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He deserves the criticism buy unfortunately if we are going to survive this season I think we are desperately going to need him, we don't have any other midfielders that can control the tempo, start of attacks from the centre or ping balls about. Can't see us actually singing that many players in January as who wants to come into a team bottom or nearly at that stage of season.

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Every PL midfielder who played against Bruceball this season had all the time in the world to hit 70 yard wonderpasses to feet. Or even 30 yard ones, given the height of the Bruceball press. Anything down the sides only had to clear Matt Ritchie's heed.

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Guest ManDoon

I don’t even think he’s a good footballer anymore. He’s always been a terrible athlete. Was he ever that good? He’s a highlights player. Looks great on MOTD. He’s Odell Beckham, essentially 

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2 hours ago, Lenny said:

Personally I think he's a good footballer and a poor athlete, with a bad attitude to boot.

 

As much as I dislike him, IMO to say he can only ping a ball is a bit of a disservice to him.

He's pretty good at most of the technical elements of the game; his close control under pressure is pretty decent and is often able to manoeuvre himself well enough to retain the ball. He can certainly see a pass under pressure and make it, be it short or long - which is more of a skill IMO than just being able to "ping it".

 

Agree. He's good with the ball, apart from the passing range, he's also pretty good at keeping possession under pressure. His real problem is just his lack of athleticism and stamina. He plays the game at walking pace like he's back in the 1980's. 

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1 hour ago, The Butcher said:

Bollocks ?

Come to the next Lockwood Cup (if I’m fit and well to play) and find out for yourself. Although I’m more of a goalscorer…

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Not arsed by that question at all. Hopefully might give him a further kick up the backside. Would be amazed if his lack of fitness hasn’t gone unnoticed/become some form of in-joke by players and staff tbh.

 

For the wages we’ll be paying and realistically what more we can get out of him, he’s still someone I’d look to replace and get shot of as a priority.

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  • 3 weeks later...

Has to be the worst taker of corners since the classic Set Penis to Williamson days. 
 

Leicester cannot stop conceding from set pieces and we just floated them in like it was a friendly match. I was seething after each corner tbh. 

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He does it time and time again, gives us the real him, ie turd.. no tracking back, average passing, never imposes himself on a game etc.

Then has 1 or maybe 2 half decent games for us. Reset button. Repeat. How he's lasted as long at the club as he has is a mystery. Rafa knew.

 

Eddie, you should know by now. It's close enough now until January, you can start getting these cunts away from the first team, at least give the young lads a taste of it. We're on a hiding to nothing anyway.

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Guest reefatoon

Think the biggest shock today was he didn’t get sent off after he was carded in the first 5 minutes. Thought it was going to be nailed on.

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Repeating myself again and people slating me for it :lol: - He is the worst passenger player we have. No engine, terrible tackler, terrible positioning, half-assing air duels, prone to giving away stupid fouls and an amazing assister to the opponent team. His defensive playmaker position is fucking useless cause he cant protect the defense at any fucking point. Always behind the play by 10 steps. Stop playing him dear god.

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