Figures 1-0 Football Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Maybe what is unacceptable is that he's scored 1 goal in 39 Premier League appearances for us. Lewis Cook has 0 in a similar amount of appearances, this season & last. Jordan Henderson has 1 this season, 1 last season. Jake Livermore has 0 this season, 1 last season. Eric Dier has 0 this season, 2 last season. All of their assists are similarly low. For whatever that is worth. People are not arguing that Jonjo Shelvey is Frank Lampard. They're arguing that he's a better option than Jake fucking Livermore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 He won't be picked like. He's seen as far too much of a loose cannon and had the exact reputation Southgate and the blazers at the FA run a million miles from. Dele Alli ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 But just think of all the 5-10 yard passes Dier and Henderson can play!! WE'LL WIN THE POSSESSION! Nah, Henderson's really good like. Putting both him and Dier together in the same midfield is football contraception though. Henderson with Oxlade-Chamberlain for me, with Dier as Henderson/CB back up, and Wilshire and Shelvey as back up attacking midfielder alternatives to Oxlade-Chamberlain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 He won't be picked like. He's seen as far too much of a loose cannon and had the exact reputation Southgate and the blazers at the FA run a million miles from. Dele Alli ? "Not that type of player." Apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 He won't be picked like. He's seen as far too much of a loose cannon and had the exact reputation Southgate and the blazers at the FA run a million miles from. Dele Alli ? "Not that type of player." Apparently. Looks one date rape away from beating somebody to death. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Shelvey is good at playing balls from deep, he tends to play as a deep lying midfielder for us. I'm not sure that automatically should translate into high assist numbers and obviously doesn't lend itself to being a prolific scorer of goals. Would be a useful plan b for England to have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 The clip of Brazil, man. That shirt is a lighter shade than his bracket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 He won't be picked like. He's seen as far too much of a loose cannon and had the exact reputation Southgate and the blazers at the FA run a million miles from. Dele Alli ? "Not that type of player." Apparently. When it suits the argument aye. Really starting to dislike Gareth Southgate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Alli has been performing to a much higher and more consistent level than Shelvey over the last 2 seasons mind. I think Shelvey definitely deserves more of a chance than Livermore and Cook though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Aye Alli is one of our best players. He could kill a man and he'd still be in the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Media really starting to get behind Shelvey for England, Cottee with a piece on him today. If he keeps his form up I genuinely reckon he’ll get a chance, we all know the media picks the team in the main. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1tche Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 If he keeps up this form and doesnt get picked, it just shows dumb the FA and Southgate really are. Especially if Livermore goes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPL Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 I heard that clip from Danny Murphy the other day, agreed with everything he said. Brazil mentioned about Shelvey not playing for a big team but forgets that Livermore is in a team that will finish bottom of the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Alli has been performing to a much higher and more consistent level than Shelvey over the last 2 seasons mind. I think Shelvey definitely deserves more of a chance than Livermore and Cook though Different positions though. Alli is more of a number 10 whereas Shelvey would probably compete for Henderson/Wilshere's position. You also have to bear in mind the players Alli has around him at Tottenham. I doubt he'd be quite so outstanding with Dwight Gayle in front of him and Ritchie & Atsu on the wings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 JOKE Livermore more like, amirite? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Alli has been performing to a much higher and more consistent level than Shelvey over the last 2 seasons mind. I think Shelvey definitely deserves more of a chance than Livermore and Cook though Different positions though. Alli is more of a number 10 whereas Shelvey would probably compete for Henderson/Wilshere's position. You also have to bear in mind the players Alli has around him at Tottenham. I doubt he'd be quite so outstanding with Dwight Gayle in front of him and Ritchie & Atsu on the wings I doubt Alli would be as good in our team than the Spurs team, but he's a better player than Shelvey. I like Shelvey too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Alli was benched for a lot of last friendlies because Southgate believes he gives the ball away too much. He's more a direct goal threat than anyone who can control a game, different players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 If he keeps up this form and doesnt get picked, it just shows dumb the FA and Southgate really are. Especially if Livermore goes if he plays this way to the end of the season i think he'll be picked myself, there's often a form player that sneaks in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Maybe what is unacceptable is that he's scored 1 goal in 39 Premier League appearances for us. What a bizarre statement He is not a goal scorer and that is not what you look for him to bring to a side. It's like saying Carrick wasn't a goalscorer. What is wrong with you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1tche Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 If he keeps up this form and doesnt get picked, it just shows dumb the FA and Southgate really are. Especially if Livermore goes if he plays this way to the end of the season i think he'll be picked myself, there's often a form player that sneaks in I hope so, because i think he could make a huge difference. Teams will be more likely to keep closer to the more well known players like Kane, Alli and Sterling. Leaving him more time to pick passes out, 2 problems with that is actually getting in the squad and then actually getting onto the pitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 If he keeps up this form and doesnt get picked, it just shows dumb the FA and Southgate really are. Especially if Livermore goes if he plays this way to the end of the season i think he'll be picked myself, there's often a form player that sneaks in I hope so, because i think he could make a huge difference. Teams will be more likely to keep closer to the more well known players like Kane, Alli and Sterling. Leaving him more time to pick passes out, 2 problems with that is actually getting in the squad and then actually getting onto the pitch funnily enough the players england have should be suited to shelvey's game, he should in theory be able to sit back and spray passes to the pace merchants we've got loads of...probably tells me all i need to know about southgate that he's not planning an alternative game such as that come up against a stronger team what is he going to do? ideal to change the shape, sit deeper and fuck teams on the counter with shelvey but there you go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest taps01 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 If he keeps up this form and doesnt get picked, it just shows dumb the FA and Southgate really are. Especially if Livermore goes if he plays this way to the end of the season i think he'll be picked myself, there's often a form player that sneaks in I hope so, because i think he could make a huge difference. Teams will be more likely to keep closer to the more well known players like Kane, Alli and Sterling. Leaving him more time to pick passes out, 2 problems with that is actually getting in the squad and then actually getting onto the pitch funnily enough the players england have should be suited to shelvey's game, he should in theory be able to sit back and spray passes to the pace merchants we've got loads of...probably tells me all i need to know about southgate that he's not planning an alternative game such as that come up against a stronger team what is he going to do? ideal to change the shape, sit deeper and fuck teams on the counter with shelvey but there you go Completely agree. Alli is completely wasted in an England shirt as we don't have anyone who can find him with his intelligent movement off the ball. Shelvely could be that player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 Oooh long pinpoint passes from JJ for superfast Sterling to run on to. Will terrify defences... as long as he pings six per game, which seems to be how many chances Sterling needs to score! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 the whole england squad is full of athletes with varying degrees of technical ability, fuck sterling what about walker and rose on either flank, ali and kane etc. slower pace as well so shelvey might not be dead after 70 minutes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted April 13, 2018 Share Posted April 13, 2018 I don't even get the defensive liability part. He tires, yes. But he does much more work than other english midfielders. He has to because of how we play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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