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Do the media ever admit there's such a thing as a bad manager? Has anyone ever been declared to be bad at their job?

 

It's as if they just won't ever say a manager is not up to scratch, it's infuriating because plenty are shit but it's never said.

Yes, when they're new and foreign they'll happily criticise them.

Even with the explosion of things like Twitter there still seems to be no accountability for these ex-professional pundits and the rest of the Stone Cutters. A perfect example of this was the overhyping of Burnley yesterday, seems to be the new cold and wet night in Stoke. They're dull, shite and have a tit of a manager who isn't that great but because he's English the PFM cheerleaders have been to be onside.

 

Even though he's a bellend who clearly hates his job, at least a Lawrenson doesn't mind having an opinion and calling out a manager that isn't up to it.

 

Wouldn't surprise me if it's an unwritten rule as part of the TV packages that they can't be seen to be too harsh as it damages the brand.

 

Bit harsh on Dyche. Burnley are a tiny club massively overachieving. He's done a cracking job imo.

 

Agree.

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Brilliant return for 50p . That bet was going to the death you have to thank the added time and of course super Al

Aye. I wasn't even keeping an eye on my bets. Just happened to check my account this morning out of curiosity. Does Pards have twitter?

 

Why are you gonna send him the 50p ?

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He was given leeway here because he didn't control the transfers, now that he gets that control it is the fault of the players yet the apologists fail to even criticise him for making poor signings

 

I hope they stick with him and he relegates them, would be a shame for him to be sacked so soon

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I'm sure they're just massive trolls, especially Ian Wright, whatever way you fold it, the buck stops with the guy at the top, you know, the one that's paid handsomely to find the players, recruit the players, train the players, motivate the players and come up with the tactics the players use. Ian Wright needs to have his vocal cords removed with a rusty knife for the sake of humanity and more importantly, my sanity.

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Palace and any club outside of the usual top 6 should be aiming for the Europa League at least. They have spent big, are a London team, and should be doing what Southampton have done in recent years or Everton. I'd be livid to be fighting relegation and going on such disastrous runs given the investment and times we live in where these days the PL is actually quite competitive and even outside of the usual lot. But fuck them :lol:

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I'm sure they're just massive trolls, especially Ian Wright, whatever way you fold it, the buck stops with the guy at the top, you know, the one that's paid handsomely to find the players, recruit the players, train the players, motivate the players and come up with the tactics the players use. Ian Wright needs to have his vocal cords removed with a rusty knife for the sake of humanity and more importantly, my sanity.

 

:thup:  Ian Wright is an embarrassment, these ex=Arsenal players who are stealing a living talking garbage on tv need to be culled. Put him, Alan Smith and Merson into a derelict pub and set it on fire.

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I'm sure they're just massive trolls, especially Ian Wright, whatever way you fold it, the buck stops with the guy at the top, you know, the one that's paid handsomely to find the players, recruit the players, train the players, motivate the players and come up with the tactics the players use. Ian Wright needs to have his vocal cords removed with a rusty knife for the sake of humanity and more importantly, my sanity.

 

:thup:  Ian Wright is an embarrassment, these ex=Arsenal players who are stealing a living talking garbage on tv need to be culled. Put him, Alan Smith and Merson into a derelict pub and set it on fire.

Smith is alright.

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Palace and any club outside of the usual top 6 should be aiming for the Europa League at least. They have spent big, are a London team, and should be doing what Southampton have done in recent years or Everton. I'd be livid to be fighting relegation and going on such disastrous runs given the investment and times we live in where these days the PL is actually quite competitive and even outside of the usual lot. But f*** them :lol:

 

Agree with that, especially when you consider the top clubs are consistently dropping points ( which is why it's so close obviously) i suspect if more mid table teams actually gave it a go from the management to the players most would be surprised with the outcome.

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I'm sure they're just massive trolls, especially Ian Wright, whatever way you fold it, the buck stops with the guy at the top, you know, the one that's paid handsomely to find the players, recruit the players, train the players, motivate the players and come up with the tactics the players use. Ian Wright needs to have his vocal cords removed with a rusty knife for the sake of humanity and more importantly, my sanity.

 

:thup:  Ian Wright is an embarrassment, these ex=Arsenal players who are stealing a living talking garbage on tv need to be culled. Put him, Alan Smith and Merson into a derelict pub and set it on fire.

Smith is alright.

 

He doesn't talk endless shite like many of the others, but he's one of the worst perpetrators of the elitist/top 4 Sky bullshit arrogance. Just today he was saying it would be impossible for Southampton to improve on 6th/7th. Leicester only won the league a few months ago ffs.

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I'm sure they're just massive trolls, especially Ian Wright, whatever way you fold it, the buck stops with the guy at the top, you know, the one that's paid handsomely to find the players, recruit the players, train the players, motivate the players and come up with the tactics the players use. Ian Wright needs to have his vocal cords removed with a rusty knife for the sake of humanity and more importantly, my sanity.

 

:thup:  Ian Wright is an embarrassment, these ex=Arsenal players who are stealing a living talking garbage on tv need to be culled. Put him, Alan Smith and Merson into a derelict pub and set it on fire.

Smith is alright.

 

Agreed.

 

Smith walked past us on the way out after the Leicester away game a couple of seasons back under Carver where we walked into a 3-0 defeat, his comment was "you all deserve better than this".

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Got this feeling on Pardews last time taking training, when the players know he's getting the boot but he doesn't know yet, he'll take training, half way through he'll be called into an office and told. He'll go back to the changing rooms. The players won't be able to look him in the eye, he'll stand in the middle and look round, point at one player "shagged her" point out another "blowjob", then another "felt her up". When still there's no reaction, he'll snarl "fuck yous...FUCK YOUS" then walk out with his head down.

 

Not quite how I'd want it but my vision of how it will be.

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Just sheer Pardew, basically. Sets his teams up from a reactionary viewpoint; tactics designed purely to stifle the opposition and its key players, yet failing miserably to do so. Meanwhile, neglecting to fashion any sort of identity for his own team - instead just relying on talented attackers to make something out of nothing.

 

It's precisely what we endured for years.

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Does Pardew have any idea how to build and coach a back four? We all appreciated our solidity in the first 3-4 months of last season but it's easy to forget that was the house that Chris Hughton built in terms of the defensive unit. As I said above, those players had already been playing together pretty effectively for years.

 

Pardew wants to go back to that solidity but with new players - does he have the first fucking clue what he's meant to be doing with them structurally or was he taking credit for what was, in the main, someone else's work?

 

I posted this in 2013. He's done exactly the same at Palace, lived off Pulis's defence for a year or so then after a few personnel changes and enough time, everything completely goes to shit and his teams eventually ship 3, 4 and 5 on a regular basis.

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