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:lol: Causing death by dangerous driving and manslaughter aren't the same thing.

It is. If you take reckless/unlawful actions that results in someone dying that you never intended then that is manslaughter. In the U.K. murder is usually reserved for preemptive/planned/intented acts of killing someone.

 

They're not the same charge, man.

Causing death by dangerous driving is one of the most widely used examples of manslaughter.

The most serious examples of death by reckless driving are prosecuted under manslaughter. Death by reckless driving charges are usually reserved for those who are bad drivers (not deliberately reckless) and end up killing someone.

 

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Sunderland AFC has suspended Darron Gibson with immediate effect, after the player was charged with driving with excess alcohol on Saturday 17 March.

The football club has commenced a full investigation into the matter.

 

Sunderland AFC’s chief executive, Martin Bain said: “We expect the highest standard of behaviour from our players and should any individual fall short of those standards then robust action must be taken.”

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Sunderland AFC has suspended Darron Gibson with immediate effect, after the player was charged with driving with excess alcohol on Saturday 17 March.

The football club has commenced a full investigation into the matter.

 

Sunderland AFC’s chief executive, Martin Bain said: “We expect the highest standard of behaviour from our players and should any individual fall short of those standards then robust action must be taken.”

 

Oh the irony of that last paragraph.

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Sunderland AFC has suspended Darron Gibson with immediate effect, after the player was charged with driving with excess alcohol on Saturday 17 March.

The football club has commenced a full investigation into the matter.

 

Sunderland AFC’s chief executive, Martin Bain said: “We expect the highest standard of behaviour from our players and should any individual fall short of those standards then robust action must be taken.”

 

Oh the irony of that last paragraph.

 

Well indeed :lol:

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:lol: Causing death by dangerous driving and manslaughter aren't the same thing.

It is. If you take reckless/unlawful actions that results in someone dying that you never intended then that is manslaughter. In the U.K. murder is usually reserved for preemptive/planned/intented acts of killing someone.

 

They're not the same charge, man.

Causing death by dangerous driving is one of the most widely used examples of manslaughter.

The most serious examples of death by reckless driving are prosecuted under manslaughter. Death by reckless driving charges are usually reserved for those who are bad drivers (not deliberately reckless) and end up killing someone.

 

That’s just not true though.

 

Death by careless or dangerous driving and manslaughter are two seperate charges and with good reason. If anything, death by dangerous/careless driving is often viewed more serious in court than manslaughter (depending on the circumstances).

 

An act of unlawful manslaughter must also be carried out via an unlawful act (ie, assaulting someone), whereas driving is not an unlawful act in it’s own right.

 

To prove unlawful act manslaughter, it must be proved that, the defendant's act caused the death of the victim, the defendant's act constituted a criminal offence in itself, the defendant had the mens rea appropriate to the unlawful act which caused the victim's death and the defendant's unlawful act is objectively recognised as having put the victim at risk of some physical harm, albeit not necessarily serious harm

 

The only type of manslaughter that could be used for a driving offence is gross negligence manslaughter, although charging someone with that would be very, very rare. It would have to be a particularly unique case where the police could evidence that the person driving was driving so erratically the death of someone was highly likely.

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SSN showing the Newcastle fan winning the crossbar challenge and Shearer celebration [emoji38] Fucking brilliant.

 

A steward tries to get him, then he nutmegs the steward [emoji38] Superb.

Can you video it and put it on here? I don't have SSN.
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