Tiresias Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 You are right to be fair. I wonder if we'll get one £30m big signing and 4 £10m ones or something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 That's because City are a bit thick, you can get 5 ( at least ) quality players for that amount of money. Factor in the sales and i wouldn't be surprised if Rafa can do quite a lot with it. No you can't get 5 quality players for that amount. Van Aanholt went for £14m in January. He's not anywhere near quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 3 years ago today a certain bloke said this to me: "Don't ever give up on your club, keep supporting it, it's your club and trust me one day you will get your club back and it will be everything you wanted it to be, Newcastle United is bigger than anyone. It hurts I know, but just keep going, he is only one man, we are a city, a whole population. Trust me." KK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 I don't think we'll get much in sales. Who is going to pay for Colback? How much is Mitro worth? Murphy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 People are totally underestimating the inflation that has happened after 1 season of the new TV deal in place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 I don't think we'll get much in sales. Who is going to pay for Colback? How much is Mitro worth? Murphy? 10m already earmarked for Thauvin. We'll generate 20m easily Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
louistoon Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Not to be a downer (not about this at all) but £70m isn't a huge amount these days, I mean John Stones went for £50m and he's s*** Not disagreeing but even in this age of ever increasing sky money/fees/wages, there are still a class of clubs that will have to pay a premium just because of who they are. Stones to City being a prime example of them having to pay way over the odds because of who they are. And Stones is also English, 22 and a full international. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Well this is great news, just seen the title change so I will have to find and read all about where this statement comes from. I never really doubted it to be honest, thought Rafa was playing a bit of politics, the news groups trying to engineer a story and I had some faith that Ashley was intelligent enough to know if he wants his asset to appreciate, Rafa is key to that and the only thing that really makes sesne is to put all your trust in the man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 As a PL club you'll almost always have to overpay. Hope we don't splash it all on shitters from this country, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 I don't think we'll get much in sales. Who is going to pay for Colback? How much is Mitro worth? Murphy? 10m already earmarked for Thauvin. We'll generate 20m easily Plus Sissoko installments (If Spurs dont sell him ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 As much as we don't trust Ashley - lets just enjoyed it while it lasts. Rafa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 The rest of the Championship seem to think our squad is worth about £500m so surely we can fleece them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 That's because City are a bit thick, you can get 5 ( at least ) quality players for that amount of money. Factor in the sales and i wouldn't be surprised if Rafa can do quite a lot with it. No you can't get 5 quality players for that amount. Van Aanholt went for £14m in January. He's not anywhere near quality. You realise for every player for 14m mentioned i can mention one for less who is quality? this is not how this works, theres quality players going between 10-15m all the damn time. Just because people overpay doesn't mean it's impossible to get players for reasonable prices. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 I don't think we'll get much in sales. Who is going to pay for Colback? How much is Mitro worth? Murphy? 10m already earmarked for Thauvin. We'll generate 20m easily I reckon we could comfortably fetch £15m for Mitrovic, Sels and a couple of others. Some players are out of contract so their wages are freed up. Plus we made £40m in the summer, the accounts openly confirmed that. Anyway, the actual figure doesn't really matter. All that matters is that it's enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Also didn't notice earlier that the statement specifically mentions loans. Reckon we'll be looking closely at a few of those to bulk up the squad at low risk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
louistoon Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 I don't think we'll get much in sales. Who is going to pay for Colback? How much is Mitro worth? Murphy? The issue with those two are their wages, you could probably get 5-6m for Mitro and 2-3m for Colback, but whether you could find any teams who want them and will pay them what we are is another issue. Add in as many of Lazaar, Hanley, Krul, Sels, Darlow, Saviet, Riviere and De Jong as possible, signings dependent, and that's enough for a player or two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 That's because City are a bit thick, you can get 5 ( at least ) quality players for that amount of money. Factor in the sales and i wouldn't be surprised if Rafa can do quite a lot with it. No you can't get 5 quality players for that amount. Van Aanholt went for £14m in January. He's not anywhere near quality. Even in January, where prices are always higher, £70m could have bought: Morgan Schneiderlin, Gerard Deulofeu (loan), Wilfred Ndidi, Mamadou Sakho (loan) And you'd have around £30m change, even counting in loan fees etc. £70m + whatever we make from sales + whatever "other means is" is more than enough to build a good, competitive PL side. As has been said numerous times on here, the lower two thirds of PL teams are very overrated and the quality is nowhere near as good as people make out. All we need to do is bring in 4 or 5 "good quality" players and then upgrade on a few of our backup options (Colback, Hanley, Diame, etc.) and we'd easily be a midtable/top half team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 In his first season at Napoli Rafa signed Higuain, Albiol, Mertens, Callejon, Ghoulam, Jorginho and Reina for around £65 million. The market has been inflated since 2013, and obviously they could offer CL football, but it shows what you can get for that kind of money. We need to focus on markets not just in the UK but across Europe. With buy-out clauses, expiring contracts etc, you can certainly do a lot with £70 million+ even in today's market. Not to mention some loans to pad out the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Keep forgetting about Krul and De Jong. Another £10m there if we don't bring them back into the squad here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Will want a larger squad and sell some at the same time, can see us buying bargain basement quality, loan in's and out of contract, additionally keep those who have premiership experience. We also have those lot that's on loan who would also boost numbers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 In his first season at Napoli Rafa signed Higuain, Albiol, Mertens, Callejon, Ghoulam, Jorginho and Reina for around £65 million. The market has been inflated since 2013, and obviously they could offer CL football, but it shows what you can get for that kind of money. We need to focus on markets not just in the UK but across Europe. With buy-out clauses, expiring contracts etc, you can certainly do a lot with £70 million+ even in today's market. Not to mention some loans to pad out the squad. Not a bad list of players, that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 That's because City are a bit thick, you can get 5 ( at least ) quality players for that amount of money. Factor in the sales and i wouldn't be surprised if Rafa can do quite a lot with it. No you can't get 5 quality players for that amount. Van Aanholt went for £14m in January. He's not anywhere near quality. You realise for every player for 14m mentioned i can mention one for less who is quality? this is not how this works, theres quality players going between 10-15m all the damn time. Just because people overpay doesn't mean it's impossible to get players for reasonable prices. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Agree that £70-100m is a lot if spent wisely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 For reference: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/premier-league-net-spend-how-8745765 According to that, only 5 of the 20 Premier League clubs had a net spend greater than £35M during the last summer transfer window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 In his first season at Napoli Rafa signed Higuain, Albiol, Mertens, Callejon, Ghoulam, Jorginho and Reina for around £65 million. The market has been inflated since 2013, and obviously they could offer CL football, but it shows what you can get for that kind of money. We need to focus on markets not just in the UK but across Europe. With buy-out clauses, expiring contracts etc, you can certainly do a lot with £70 million+ even in today's market. Not to mention some loans to pad out the squad. Not a bad list of players, that. Throw in Koulibaly the following summer for £5 million and it's the core of their current side, save for Higuain who was obviously sold for ridiculous money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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