Dr Venkman Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Also: Seven league clean sheets is not quite top of the stoppers: Brighton have eight. But add in the three league cup games and Newcastle have an impressive nine shut-outs this season. 7 + 3 = 9 That picture gives me the giggles, every time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Gooner mate is on a wind up. "Rafa for England is happening, 12m a year." My biggest concern for our future is some other offer tempting Rafa away. I could see him really fancying the England job (and I think he would be a great appointment for them). It may be in our best interests long term to not get past the 1/4 finals and not do too well in the FA Cup. Klopp doing well at Liverpool is a good thing, Conte needs to be given time at Chelsea, I don't think Man City would turn to him should Pep flop, Jose will get sacked before the end of the season at Manure, I feel but the former Liverpool manager wouldn't be a popular hire. Arsenal could very well turn their sights on him should Wenger get the England job. Spuds are not changing their manager any time soon. No one else in this country worries me, and I don't think Rafa wants to manage outside of England right now. First of all, Rafa loves the day to day of management. Secondly, he's smart enough to know he's on a hiding to nothing with the English team, the players aren't good enough. And most importantly, do you honestly think he's going to ditch his 'project', over which he has almost total control (barring only the say so of Ashley over funds, which is as good as it gets), the project he decided to take a season in the championship to build, for the first sniff of a job like being the fucking England manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Also, lest we forget, he called us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 He would be absolutely mad to take the England job. Not a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 rafa aint gonna manage england. he got enough abuse and disrespect from the fans when he last worked in london and he's not gonna risk that again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheBallWinner Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Don't be worried about other clubs snatching Rafa. Rafa's priority is being with the family after spending 2 years in a flat on his own in Naples he'd had enough- he didn't want a new contract. After spending 6 months sleeping at Real Madrid's training ground he'd had enough. Now the English job he'd been wanting has come along. Why would a bloke in his 50's move away to another country or down to London when he doesn't need to! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Rafa's got a project and he's loving every minute of it. This, if he wanted away there would have been plenty of offers when we got relegated, he knows he's on to something here and he knows he's at a team that will idolise him. He's here for the same reason he stayed at Liverpool so long, he just gets it, it's not about the money, it's about everything else. yeah, he's one of not many in the game with integrity and i couldn't see him caring about the money he's here for the duration imo assuming this season goes to plan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Assuming we go back up and back him I can see the club offering a new improved and longer contract, which he will accept. This is a great project for him and so far he could not be doing a better job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Going up petrifies me where this guy is concerned, he'll want to stay but won't put up with being treated like an arsehole. We live and pray. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Also: Seven league clean sheets is not quite top of the stoppers: Brighton have eight. But add in the three league cup games and Newcastle have an impressive nine shut-outs this season. 7 + 3 = 9 That picture gives me the giggles, every time I quite like Douglas, always thought he seemed like one of the better NE journos. But that article is absolutely horrendous. Even the Joy Ryder wouldn't manage to make that many fuck ups, surely? What does the editor at the Chronicle do, exactly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 I quite like Douglas, always thought he seemed like one of the better NE journos. But that article is absolutely horrendous. Even the Joy Ryder wouldn't manage to make that many fuck ups, surely? What does the editor at the Chronicle do, exactly? I think he was the first to go with the cutbacks. Can just picture David Brent explaining his decision. "They're grown-ups, they shouldn't need someone to check their work. What kind of a job is checking other people's speliing anyway. No, we don't need an editor. Ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Whether Rafa leaves any time soon is really down to what happens in the summer if we get promotion. If he senses any withdrawal of the club's ambition at board level, there is little doubt in my mind that he will be off when the first decent offer comes in. He wants to make a success of whatever he chooses to do and that means being able to compete with clubs like Arsenal etc. I won't say Man C, Chelsea or Man U because those clubs will always have far greater resources than we will unless we too are taken over by unbelievably wealthy Arabs or Chinese but I don't think those clubs are his yardstick anyway. Arsenal WOULD be a draw unless we show we aim to compete with them in the transfer market. As for England, he may be flattered but I cannot see him leaving for that job just yet and in any case, he will know what a poisoned chalice it really is...why would he want that when much of the NE is behind him at NUFC unless the job here becomes impossible or too difficult. In 5 years it may be a different matter but I hope he has made NUFC a successful club in silverware terms by then. He is one of the world's top managers and we should be very grateful he is here but clubs and countries around the world will always want someone of that calibre when there are vacancies at management level....let us hope it doesn't happen any time soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 We've just got to hope that hiring him/keeping him in place signifies the wider realisation - Ashley's realisation - that the club needs to be run with professionalism, ambition and investment at all levels of its infrastructure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 We've just got to hope that hiring him/keeping him in place signifies the wider realisation - Ashley's realisation - that the club needs to be run with professionalism, ambition and investment at all levels of its infrastructure. as long as we get back to the cash cow of the PL i don't think ashley will care with rafa running it, main issue for me will be developing commercial income which ashley just doesn't seem to have any interest in for obvious reasons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 It's mad how different it is having him as your manager compared to what your perception of him was as a manager elsewhere. Absolutely love the bloke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 It's mad how different it is having him as your manager compared to what your perception of him was as a manager elsewhere. Absolutely love the bloke. Although I didn't love him I never understood why he was treated so badly at Chelsea and Madrid. Particularly when he was at Chelsea I thought he was likeable and the fans were way off. Not that I want to tell other fans what to think of their own cloob, but it did seem unfair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Wonder if Ashley is realising now what he could have had here all along had he not been such a fucking stingy arsehole. Must be so much more fun being the owner of this club compared to the one that has been killing itself for the last half decade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 It's mad how different it is having him as your manager compared to what your perception of him was as a manager elsewhere. Absolutely love the bloke. Truth be known the only thing we would have known about the man at the time was media fed and we all know how reliable that can be, reference the Pardew thread. We're all guilty of it, you only have to listen to the Liverpool supporters to know what kind of guy he's always been. As far as Ashley goes, he's landed on his feet here with Rafa and he'll know it, I can't see him fucking this up, we all know he's capable of it but I think Rafa will have told him exactly what he needs to know and what he wants to hear. We've had the ability to be self sufficient for a while now, we've just not had the right man to lead us, now we have everything we need why change a winning formula? There's always that niggling fear in the back of my head because Ashley has pulled the rug out so many times before, this time does feel very different though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 I think I started respecting him immensely when he acted with such class and ability in the face of all that nonsense at Chelsea. Knew he was a wrong-fit at Real, mind. About a week before we hired him in March I was singing his praises on here so obviously my opinion of him now is through the fucking roof. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 I think I started respecting him immensely when he acted with such class and ability in the face of all that nonsense at Chelsea. I remember early doors there - maybe his first match - an away FA Cup match at a lower league team - sure it was on TV - he was ripped by the Chelsea fans as he walked to the tunnel which was right next to them at half time. 'Rafa out' banners as well all because of a few words he said when Liverpool manager. Five months later, he won them the Europa League! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 I think I started respecting him immensely when he acted with such class and ability in the face of all that nonsense at Chelsea. Knew he was a wrong-fit at Real, mind. About a week before we hired him in March I was signing his praises on here so obviously my opinion of him now is through the fucking roof. As much as I love the man, it was so blatantly obvious that he wasn't the right fit at Real Madrid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 I quite like Douglas, always thought he seemed like one of the better NE journos. But that article is absolutely horrendous. Even the Joy Ryder wouldn't manage to make that many fuck ups, surely? What does the editor at the Chronicle do, exactly? Douglas is the NUFC editor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 I quite like Douglas, always thought he seemed like one of the better NE journos. But that article is absolutely horrendous. Even the Joy Ryder wouldn't manage to make that many f*** ups, surely? What does the editor at the Chronicle do, exactly? Douglas is the NUFC editor. That would explain it then! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 It's mad how different it is having him as your manager compared to what your perception of him was as a manager elsewhere. Absolutely love the bloke. Truth be known the only thing we would have known about the man at the time was media fed and we all know how reliable that can be, reference the Pardew thread. We're all guilty of it, you only have to listen to the Liverpool supporters to know what kind of guy he's always been. As far as Ashley goes, he's landed on his feet here with Rafa and he'll know it, I can't see him fucking this up, we all know he's capable of it but I think Rafa will have told him exactly what he needs to know and what he wants to hear. We've had the ability to be self sufficient for a while now, we've just not had the right man to lead us, now we have everything we need why change a winning formula? There's always that niggling fear in the back of my head because Ashley has pulled the rug out so many times before, this time does feel very different though. It wasn't the media stuff with me tbf, I just hated the way his Liverpool side played, particularly in the Champions League. I never thought that they really had any quality at that level, and got to finals through luck and pure huff and puff. Dirk Kuyt typified their style whenever I watched them and I couldn't stand him as a player. When it's your team that's grafting its arse off it's a different story though, it's brilliant, and definitely not luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 No way he's going to Arsenal like. Wenger to Rafa? Nee chance. I don't fear he'll jump ship to a more resourceful club if Ashley plays ball. For a typical top 6 side he's seen as yesterday's man even though his ability level is elite. Arsenal for example would gamble with a Koeman rather than go Rafa. Everton & co. will be sideways steps if we invest properly. If Ashley messes him around he'll resign. That's our risk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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