Scoot Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 McClaren looks so clueless, normal day at office The more I look at McClaren in that photo the more it makes me laugh. He really does just look totally clueless as to what is going on in front of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Suggests to me that we will spend, but it will be on the recommendations of Carr and in the mould of younger players with sell on value. It's always going to be with profit in mind, not whats best for the team, so it still doesn't sound good. Could see Rafa seeing what the situation is in the summer and if the above is the case he will leave and end up working for a club who are more deserving of his talents. Hopefully not though, but it is Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 The article is trash from our PR mouth piece, Townsend wasn't over priced in today's market that's just an excuse. They didn't want to spend in January and are surprised when everyone is p*ssed by this. I think £2m loan plus £13m transfer fee is scandalous for Townsend tbh. Hes worth about £10m max tbh as hes declined since he played for us last The worry I've got is that Townsend was available now because Sam didn't fancy him much a bit like he didn't rate Defoe when he first went to Sunderland as manager. It could be by the end of the season Townsend is starting regularly again and playing well, then his value will go closer to £20m. If they get relegated though there'll be the release clause so Ashley is probably gambling on that to save £2m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 If the mirror article is to be believed it's all a moot point as he will be off. I read that article as back to the old ways of Graham Carr gets final say and we are back to buying players purely on the basis of re-sale value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Would love to see Big Sam, Pardew and Townsend relegated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 The article is trash from our PR mouth piece, Townsend wasn't over priced in today's market that's just an excuse. They didn't want to spend in January and are surprised when everyone is p*ssed by this. I think £2m loan plus £13m transfer fee is scandalous for Townsend tbh. Hes worth about £10m max tbh as hes declined since he played for us last £13m fee is a good deal imo, i'm assuming that's a clause that will still be available in the summer then and they've gambled on not paying the extra £2m? hadn't read a massive amount of the detail if there's no clause and we try to buy him after promotion he's probably costing £15-20m imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Two million to all but guarantee promotion is peanuts, Ashley most likely gambles that in one night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 I imagine Ashley would baulk at paying more than we sold him for as a matter of principle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 i'd have paid it aye, largely because rafa has worked with him and wanted him back and he had one of the best spells of his PL career with rafa in rafa's system whole thing seemed to make sense me to Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 i'd have paid it aye, largely because rafa has worked with him and wanted him back and he had one of the best spells of his PL career with rafa in rafa's system whole thing seemed to make sense me to I'm not a Townsend fan after he jumped ship, but I would also back Rafa's judgement. If he wanted him back then we should have made it happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 See, I don't care that much about the money. Some of you talk like you are Ashley and/or Charnley, and I don't blame you. I have probably done so myself in the past. But this is what nine years of the "Mike Ashley penny pinching"-regime does to you. It's a a way of justifying the shit they put us through. As a supporter I don't care that much about what we spent, about age or re-sell value. I care about putting together a great team, that win matches and plays entertaining football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 See, I don't care that much about the money. Some of you talk like you are Ashley and/or Charnley, and I don't blame you. I have probably done so myself in the past. But this is what nine years of the "Mike Ashley penny pinching"-regime does to you. It's a a way of justifying the shit they put us through. As a supporter I don't care that much about what we spent, about age or re-sell value. I care about putting together a great team, that win matches and plays entertaining football. :thup: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 See, I don't care that much about the money. Some of you talk like you are Ashley and/or Charnley, and I don't blame you. I have probably done so myself in the past. But this is what nine years of the "Mike Ashley penny pinching"-regime does to you. It's a a way of justifying the shit they put us through. As a supporter I don't care that much about what we spent, about age or re-sell value. I care about putting together a great team, that win matches and plays entertaining football. :thup: Obviously this is a decent point, but if you really subscribe to it completely you may as well stop talking about transfers entirely. Cost is one of the major ways people judge a signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 See, I don't care that much about the money. Some of you talk like you are Ashley and/or Charnley, and I don't blame you. I have probably done so myself in the past. But this is what nine years of the "Mike Ashley penny pinching"-regime does to you. It's a a way of justifying the shit they put us through. As a supporter I don't care that much about what we spent, about age or re-sell value. I care about putting together a great team, that win matches and plays entertaining football. maybe some but for most everything has context, especially players value, can't really discuss signings without considering their cost in the modern game imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 See, I don't care that much about the money. Some of you talk like you are Ashley and/or Charnley, and I don't blame you. I have probably done so myself in the past. But this is what nine years of the "Mike Ashley penny pinching"-regime does to you. It's a a way of justifying the shit they put us through. As a supporter I don't care that much about what we spent, about age or re-sell value. I care about putting together a great team, that win matches and plays entertaining football. :thup: Obviously this is a decent point, but if you really subscribe to it completely you may as well stop talking about transfers entirely. Cost is one of the major ways people judge a signing. posts crossed over but i've basically just said the same thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Who is the bloke in the dugout who dyes his hair black. He looks f***ing ridiculous I think that is Mickel Anita. Antia Is he related to Vernon Anita? Their names are anagrams like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Who is the bloke in the dugout who dyes his hair black. He looks f***ing ridiculous I think that is Mickel Anita. Antia Is he related to Vernon Anita? Their names are anagrams like i thought that too, but its definitley been denied in the chronicle by lee ryder i think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Toon Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 This really needs used to resurrect the 'image of the week' thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Someone needs to photoshop pards in so it looks like Rafa is shitting on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Right, I've been away from the Internet for a couple of weeks, I'm trying to find out what actually happened here, can anyone give a quick summary? It seems everyone is happy with Benitez but he might not be staying? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 He will be gone once he takes us up like, I guarantee! He will have far better offers than us and I get the feeling Ashley and co will be all too willing to see him leave for another more ambitious club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Right, I've been away from the Internet for a couple of weeks, I'm trying to find out what actually happened here, can anyone give a quick summary? It seems everyone is happy with Benitez but he might not be staying? We signed no one in January. Fans were disappointed. Rafa seemed angry/confused at the situation. Rags started in with talk of a dust-up behind the scenes. Some dismissed it as predictable paper talk and Rafa being disappointed with the QPR result, others pointed to both Rafa's reaction and the weeks earlier stories about Ashley's re-involvement as an indicator that at least something had gone on. Then Rafa comes out and says that the club "can't make the same mistakes again" which I'm fairly certain everybody now reads as proof that there was something that went on. We'll never know the full details. Now predictions are focused on whether or not the club will "make the same mistakes again" in the summer which would lead to Rafa's inevitable walking. My hopes are not high that they won't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 He will be gone once he takes us up like, I guarantee! He will have far better offers than us and I get the feeling Ashley and co will be all too willing to see him leave for another more ambitious club. On the other hand, what's the point in Rafa getting us promoted if he's not going to have a go in the PL? Anything is possible of course but I would think he'd like to see this through. Unless the summer is a complete disaster of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 If he takes us up it's a job done for him. I actually believe he'd love to spend a good few years here, but he has a burning ambition to win major honours which is something our owner couldn't give a fuck about. Again I will put money on this, he will take us up get an offer and we won't stand in his way, grateful that we can then get someone in as a lackey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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