Hanshithispantz Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Pretty sure you actually have to fail an aptitude test to write for The Mag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Looking at his previous articles the chap hasn't ever been a fan of Benitez. PS: he said this mid-January: In the meantime, if the right player – or players – become available during the January window that’s a bonus, but if no signings are forthcoming there’s no need to panic. So let’s hold our nerve, keep our powder dry and then once promotion is assured, that’s the time for Mike Ashley’s cheque book to come out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 "keep our powder dry" fucking love that phrase like, creases me every time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 We have the driest powder in the Premiership. Other clubs can only marvel at how dry our powder is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 The thing I don't understand with Ashley is that we are guaranteed right now at least £100 million TV money. If you give Rafa half that right now he would keep us up, and with next season that £50 million gives us at least what, £210 million? The Premier League is littered with serious money right now, it makes absolutely no sense to spend some of it to guarantee it keeps coming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Anyone read this crap? https://www.themag.co.uk/2017/08/im-no-mike-ashley-apologist-but-what-about-the-man-who-picks-the-team-newcastle-united-rafa-benitez/ That's not a bad article. He's spent money on utter shite. This is spot on. Last season’s Championship winning campaign was for the most part, a series of uninspiring performances with the Newcastle manager’s negative tactics grinding out results when a more expansive attacking formation – especially at home – would surely have brought the same end result but with a flourish, rather than a sense of relief. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 It's moronic shite from someone who has no ability at all to comprehend the work that actually goes on at a football club outside of picking the teamsheat. If he could just flick a switch and blow teams away with 2 up top he would have done it, he chose to go with his tried and tested method. It worked. It would work this season too if he was allowed to build a Premiership squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikenewcastle Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Anyone read this crap? https://www.themag.co.uk/2017/08/im-no-mike-ashley-apologist-but-what-about-the-man-who-picks-the-team-newcastle-united-rafa-benitez/ That's not a bad article. He's spent money on utter s****. This is spot on. Last season’s Championship winning campaign was for the most part, a series of uninspiring performances with the Newcastle manager’s negative tactics grinding out results when a more expansive attacking formation – especially at home – would surely have brought the same end result but with a flourish, rather than a sense of relief. Some signings haven't been great, but he signed players last year to do a job - get promotion. We did it very comfortably and had money to spare from the players we sold last year. We started this season with a championship squad and Rafa has had peanuts (in PL terms) to try and sort it out. Also worth remembering he generally hasn't been able to bring in the players he wants. Seen a few people criticise Rafa for poor transfers lately and it's a load of c**p. Yes there have been some odd ones, but does he really deserve to be criticised to this extent when A. his transfers did their job last year B. He's so far not performed miracles with a typically pathetic Ashley budget? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 He'd clearly been promised upgrades upon promotion and it's not happened. Hanley was adequate down there anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 On promotion we needed 5 first team players we got one: Lejeune. That is the beginning and end of the story. Rafa basically had Reina and Abraham in the bag and the club fucked it up. Both are better than the players we have in those positions now. That's not me writing Joselu off...Abraham has the pace and close control to not only keep back lines deep he looks like the type that can manufacture chances for the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Anyone remember when we were in the Championship and had to convince players to come to play at that level? Anyone remember when we were in the Championship and scored as many goals as anyone else in the league, with the best goal difference of anyone? Anyone remember why we are called deluded and expect too much too soon? We're a club being rebuilt after a decade of almost complete mismanagement. It'll take time. There will be lots of signings that don't work out (like every manager in history has had), and this is made worse when your first choice targets aren't being funded or are allowed to slip away. There will be plenty of matches where we have to grind out results, because for at least this season, staying up is everything. Literally nothing else matters, certainly not attractive football. Everyone wants us to score loads of goals, but it isn't always possible. Honestly, boils my piss that people are so impatient. Sometimes I think we deserve all the fucking pelters we get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Caballero wasn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 On promotion we needed 5 first team players we got one: Lejeune. That is the beginning and end of the story. Rafa basically had Reina and Abraham in the bag and the club fucked it up. Both are better than the players we have in those positions now. That's not me writing Joselu off...Abraham has the pace and close control to not only keep back lines deep he looks like the type that can manufacture chances for the team. Yeah but don't forget Abraham would have cost £200m and Ashley can't afford that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Caballero wasn't it? Yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Anyone remember when we were in the Championship and had to convince players to come to play at that level? Anyone remember when we were in the Championship and scored as many goals as anyone else in the league, with the best goal difference of anyone? Anyone remember why we are called deluded and expect too much too soon? We're a club being rebuilt after a decade of almost complete mismanagement. It'll take time. There will be lots of signings that don't work out (like every manager in history has had), and this is made worse when your first choice targets aren't being funded or are allowed to slip away. There will be plenty of matches where we have to grind out results, because for at least this season, staying up is everything. Literally nothing else matters, certainly not attractive football. Everyone wants us to score loads of goals, but it isn't always possible. Honestly, boils my p*ss that people are so impatient. Sometimes I think we deserve all the f***ing pelters we get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Anyone remember when we were in the Championship and had to convince players to come to play at that level? Anyone remember when we were in the Championship and scored as many goals as anyone else in the league, with the best goal difference of anyone? Anyone remember why we are called deluded and expect too much too soon? We're a club being rebuilt after a decade of almost complete mismanagement. It'll take time. There will be lots of signings that don't work out (like every manager in history has had), and this is made worse when your first choice targets aren't being funded or are allowed to slip away. There will be plenty of matches where we have to grind out results, because for at least this season, staying up is everything. Literally nothing else matters, certainly not attractive football. Everyone wants us to score loads of goals, but it isn't always possible. Honestly, boils my piss that people are so impatient. Sometimes I think we deserve all the fucking pelters we get. Well said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Yep - god knows who people thought we'd be able to buy in the Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Rafa wanted to go out and improve with the likes of Townsend in January and wasn't backed. Had he been backed we probably would have walked the rest of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Rafa wanted to go out and improve with the likes of Townsend in January and wasn't backed. Had he been backed we probably would have walked the rest of the season. According to Mark Douglas' book, he wanted Townsend, Loftus-Cheek and Delph in January, all on loan (albeit with loan fees) and clauses in their contracts that if we were promoted, their transfers would all be made permanent for an additional fee on top of that. Promotion effectively sealed and half of the recruitment for the summer done in January. Why they didn't go ahead with that I've no fucking clue, absolute cunts... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Rafa wanted to go out and improve with the likes of Townsend in January and wasn't backed. Had he been backed we probably would have walked the rest of the season. According to Mark Douglas' book, he wanted Townsend, Loftus-Cheek and Delph in January, all on loan (albeit with loan fees) and clauses in their contracts that if we were promoted, their transfers would all be made permanent for an additional fee on top of that. Promotion effectively sealed and half of the recruitment for the summer done in January. Why they didn't go ahead with that I've no fucking clue, absolute cunts... What he wants and what is realistically possible are 2 different things mind. Palace absolutely kippered us and fair play to them over Townsend, they had zero intention of selling him back to us and out us on a wild goose chase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 I doubt clubs actually do that like, stringing out the sales of players they have no intention of selling for a laugh. I'd imagine they have better things to do. If Palace wanted £15m (which was reported) then we should have paid it like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 The thing I don't understand with Ashley is that we are guaranteed right now at least £100 million TV money. If you give Rafa half that right now he would keep us up, and with next season that £50 million gives us at least what, £210 million? The Premier League is littered with serious money right now, it makes absolutely no sense to spend some of it to guarantee it keeps coming. exactly and i hate to say this but Ashley deserves relegation at the fans expense Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Rafa wanted to go out and improve with the likes of Townsend in January and wasn't backed. Had he been backed we probably would have walked the rest of the season. According to Mark Douglas' book, he wanted Townsend, Loftus-Cheek and Delph in January, all on loan (albeit with loan fees) and clauses in their contracts that if we were promoted, their transfers would all be made permanent for an additional fee on top of that. Promotion effectively sealed and half of the recruitment for the summer done in January. Why they didn't go ahead with that I've no f***ing clue, absolute c***s... This is typical of the short-term view the club takes. There is no way we could afford them now but we could if we had done the deals in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Ashley seems to want to sabotage his own investment so can anyone explain why he does this ? The guy is a classic for thinking he knows best and surrounding himself with cheap yes men. He's also a gambler, but when it comes to Newcastle there's no value to him to finish high up the table and spend to get there, it's about spending the least and just surviving. That is where the profit is coupled with pumping free and global Sports Direct branding down our throats. You have to remember that Mike Ashley isn't a sports fans in the slightest. He doesn't think in terms of fans dreaming of winning things or being excited by signing top players and trying to play top football. He just wants to keep the free global advertising money train going in this league and make profit on selling on cheap players. To us under funding your team is essentially shitting on your fan base and hopes for survival or more, to Mike Ashley it's the thrill of knowing better than others and finding a crafty way to stay up on the cheap regardless of how s*** the football gets or how much it tramples on the very essence of supporting a football club. A sane football fan will never understand Mike Ashley. A greedy, egotistical, selfish business parasite would be high fiving him on a job well done. Quoted for truth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Anyone remember when we were in the Championship and had to convince players to come to play at that level? Anyone remember when we were in the Championship and scored as many goals as anyone else in the league, with the best goal difference of anyone? Anyone remember why we are called deluded and expect too much too soon? We're a club being rebuilt after a decade of almost complete mismanagement. It'll take time. There will be lots of signings that don't work out (like every manager in history has had), and this is made worse when your first choice targets aren't being funded or are allowed to slip away. There will be plenty of matches where we have to grind out results, because for at least this season, staying up is everything. Literally nothing else matters, certainly not attractive football. Everyone wants us to score loads of goals, but it isn't always possible. Honestly, boils my p*ss that people are so impatient. Sometimes I think we deserve all the f***ing pelters we get. I've got no problem with this post IF Rafa stays. If Rafa gets frustrated and leaves then all hope is gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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