Guest neesy111 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Think Carr was lauded as a footballing guru when it suited the club and thrown under the bus when that suited them too. He's bent as anything, but nearly every football agent and scout are. A bunch of rich folk doing favours for one another for the right price. Unbelievably harsh man. I truly believe so many more of the players he brought in would have done far better if we ever bothered to have a decent manager at the club at the time. That's rubbish as many have done shit after leaving us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Carr's job might have said chief scout but in reality he was more of an agent than anything else. His remit was to find young players with sell on value and, by in large, he achieved that. The whole "well I'd heard of him," crack is tiresome. That wasn't the crux of Carr's job and we all know it. We've sold, what, two players for a profit from his scouting? I'd say that is pretty poor if that was his job like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 I guess Carr never factored in how we would misuse and freeze out so many of his signings. Ben Arfa alone should have fetched £30m in sell-on. Agree he's more of an agent though, and has a dodgy relationship with that agency. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Carr's job might have said chief scout but in reality he was more of an agent than anything else. His remit was to find young players with sell on value and, by in large, he achieved that. The whole "well I'd heard of him," crack is tiresome. That wasn't the crux of Carr's job and we all know it. We've sold, what, two players for a profit from his scouting? I'd say that is pretty poor if that was his job like. That's more to do with Pardew tbh, we technically didn't sell Ben Arfa either but under anyone with competence we would have and for s*** loads. Carr has had plenty of downs as well as ups but the Pardew factor shouldn't be ignored as it's the main reason why a lot of the signings weren't more successful. But this has been done to death with far too many people straight up ignoring the Pardew and Ashley factors for there to be an actual balanced discussion on the subject. Either way we are in a much better place now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Excellent point Mole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 Carr's job might have said chief scout but in reality he was more of an agent than anything else. His remit was to find young players with sell on value and, by in large, he achieved that. The whole "well I'd heard of him," crack is tiresome. That wasn't the crux of Carr's job and we all know it. We've sold, what, two players for a profit from his scouting? I'd say that is pretty poor if that was his job like. Not that it's that much better, but it's more like six. We've sold 3 or 4 just this window for a profit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 At some point he became the scapegoat. All of the blame for where we are should lie at Charnley's door as he controls the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 At some point he became the scapegoat. All of the blame for where we are should lie at Charnley's door as he controls the club. I'd say it was further back than that. I think it was Llambias that started the whole purple, buying within ridiculously stringent age and price limits with the aim to make profits nonsense. Charnley carried it on and should shouder a hell of a lot of blame too, but Llambias, well he was just pure scumbag personified. Anyway, it's Ashley who is at most fault as he let or controlled what actions went on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 He was apparently driving the McClaren appointment and that's the worst thing he did, never mind all the average French wankers he signed up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 He was apparently driving the McClaren appointment and that's the worst thing he did, never mind all the average French wankers he signed up That's the only real problem I've got with him, if he was genuinely pushing McClaren then he was completely out of touch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Apparently we've scouted Tielemans. Not sure why I'm posting this at this time of the year, also not sure if realistic but you never know. Would be some signing in January. Get a few months to adapt at a lower level and then be ready when we're hopefully back in the PL. He's a bit more talented than Colback Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Feel like everyone has been scouting Tielemans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I can imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Imagine he'll move to someone like Man City or Chelsea and be loaned out for a couple of years to be honest. Hope he goes somewhere decent (no offence to Anderlecht) and just plays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 He's linked with every major club in Europe, not a chance. We'll have scouted him though because that's what any club with sense does. We need to be clued up on any possible young talent out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Who the fuck's Tielemans? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John P Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Who the f***'s Tielemans? Belgian beer I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 could be like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Not that Strawberry flavoured shite? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Delirium Tielemans I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Delirium is the best beer ever tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Who the f***'s Tielemans? Belgian beer I think. http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/anderlechts-david-pollet-sprays-beer-on-youri-tielemans-as-they-with-picture-id491956543 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Delirium is the best beer ever tbh I just thought it was OK tbh. Like Dulle Teve a lot more from the tripels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Feel like everyone has been scouting Tielemans I even started to when I was YT scouting Mbemba Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturla Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Feel like everyone has been scouting Tielemans I even started to when I was YT scouting Mbemba Dennis? Is that you??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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