sempuki Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 More names but I think we will end up with that South Korean striker, 'Nee Won'. Nah. Ashley keeping the club means he is now going to be responsible for keeping us up. He has to back Rafa basically and if it cost the club £20m, so be it. If we go down after he's put his faith in Rafa's judgement, relegation will be purely down to the manager. This is an “ashley isn’t stupid enough to let us be relegated” post. No, it's an "Ashley will be willing to spend £20m (of the club's money) in order to avoid relegation/shift the blame to Rafa if we go down". Then why have we been haggling over the price of this lad for over a week? Feyenoord aren’t going to shift on their price, so why are we so reluctant to spend that £20m that is apparently readily available? It's called negotiating. Most clubs do it. Negotiation typically goes like: stage 1 - daft offer you know isn't going to be accepted stage 2 - more sensible offer stage 3 - agree to meet in the middle Ashley's negotiation process appears to be: stage 1 - daft offer you know isn't going to be accepted stage 2 - slightly higher daft offer that isn't going to be accepted stage 3 - walk away Ironically, when someone else tries a similar negotiation technique with him he calls them a timewaster. Nailed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 It seems to me that if Jorgensen was valued at 15m by Feyenoord, that our opening bid would have been 6m. It's not about budgets, it's about feeling as if we've won. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 More names but I think we will end up with that South Korean striker, 'Nee Won'. Nah. Ashley keeping the club means he is now going to be responsible for keeping us up. He has to back Rafa basically and if it cost the club £20m, so be it. If we go down after he's put his faith in Rafa's judgement, relegation will be purely down to the manager. This is an “ashley isn’t stupid enough to let us be relegated” post. No, it's an "Ashley will be willing to spend £20m (of the club's money) in order to avoid relegation/shift the blame to Rafa if we go down". Then why have we been haggling over the price of this lad for over a week? Feyenoord aren’t going to shift on their price, so why are we so reluctant to spend that £20m that is apparently readily available? It's called negotiating. Most clubs do it. Negotiation typically goes like: stage 1 - daft offer you know isn't going to be accepted stage 2 - more sensible offer stage 3 - agree to meet in the middle Ashley's negotiation process appears to be: stage 1 - daft offer you know isn't going to be accepted stage 2 - slightly higher daft offer that isn't going to be accepted stage 3 - walk away Ironically, when someone else tries a similar negotiation technique with him he calls them a timewaster. Although Staveley didn't make a daft offer, Ashley wanted a daft price for a club that's in the mix to go down without major investment. Yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 http://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.hexf-mzJwlB2v2wB0l9c6QHaHa&w=193&h=188&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7 The only Luan Charnley will end up getting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Luan ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Charnley: How about it, Luan? Will you sign for us? Luan: Ewh, no! Charnley: Oh. Well can I have my shirts back at least? Security: OK, you heard the man. Why don’t you take it outside? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 no one coming as Ashley is unwilling to buy anyone so we may as well ignore the thread title Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Haha, just seen Joe Bryan mentioned as being linked with us and Everton on SSN, and he scored yesterday for Bristol City. Their manager commenting afterwards that it would take a 'stupid bid' for them to consider selling their best players. Well, if there's anything NUFC can do, its 'stupid' bids.... it just won't be in the way he hopes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 By when do we need to complete a signing for them to start on Wednesday? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 By when do we need to complete a signing for them to start on Wednesday? Tomorrow lunchtime, because there are games on Tuesday night and it's the round of matches that counts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Wrong way round like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Love the billboards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Currently watching Moneyball and all I can picture is Rafa being in the same boat at Billy Beane when it comes to player recruitment. You’re going to get guys in within the constraints of what we’re offering you. Billy Beane was part of the Barnsley takeover last month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alijmitchell Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 We’re gonna get no one, there’s literally no point in this thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Wrong way round like. Striker. A fucking sign. A sign we're gan doon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Wrong way round like. Only if you're driving...in America. Edit: I'm not well, and trying to work whether it would be different if you were driving on the other side has sent me West. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 By when do we need to complete a signing for them to start on Wednesday? Tomorrow lunchtime, because there are games on Tuesday night and it's the round of matches that counts. just like when we got rafa in too late to stay up, we might get a striker in too late to save us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Wrong way round like. Only if you're driving...in America. Edit: I'm not well, and trying to work whether it would be different if you were driving on the other side has sent me West. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodson Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 It seems to me that if Jorgensen was valued at 15m by Feyenoord, that our opening bid would have been 6m. It's not about budgets, it's about feeling as if we've won. This Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Whilst there was always time and the possibility of bringing someone in at the beginning of the window that glimmer of hope has been snuffed out. There’s clearly no genuine willingness to invest and even if there is now there isn’t time to spend it. I’d be astonished if anyone significant comes in now, it’s just blatant neglect from the owner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Just don’t understand how you can willingly not invest in something that you’ve spent millions on acquiring. He doesn’t need to does he. It’s serving the purpose he bought it for. I honestly believe that as long as he gets his “loans” back he’ll then happily run the club into the ground and walk away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 He told us himself, he wont put another penny in and the club can only spend what it makes minus his cut of the profits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 He told us himself, he wont put another penny in and the club can only spend what it makes minus his cut of the profits. What does his cut of the profits even mean? What profits? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 He told us himself, he wont put another penny in and the club can only spend what it makes minus his cut of the profits. What does his cut of the profits even mean? What profits? Do you think he doesnt take money out of the club ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5321873/Newcastle-join-Liverpool-race-sign-Gremio-star-Luan.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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