AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Which end are we in, and do I have to queue up at the ticket office? Well be in the south end come 9:30 apparently. Late but Fucking finally, always liked you Mike Oh right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 The likes of Joey Barton, Alan Smith, Danny Guthrie and Geremi pissed it last time, lads. Geremi hardly played IIRC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Nicky Butt then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 I liked Guthrie, but he was no better than Shelvey is. Should boss that league if his head is right. Guthrie and Routledge (January onwards) were our main creative force arguably that season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Shelvey is miles ahead of any of them. He's a good creative CM. Bagged 7 assists last season and that was supposedly his worst campaign to date. His key passes etc. are all solid too. He needs backup, aye, and whether he has a suitable partner remains to be seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Matt Ritchie to come in also, got double figure goals and assists last time he was in the Championship. We'll be reet man, plus we aren't done bringing players in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Matt Ritchie to come in also, got double figure goals and assists last time he was in the Championship. We'll be reet man, plus we aren't done bringing players in 15 goals and 17 assists, nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 I suppose the argument could be made that the league is a lot stronger than it was the last time we were down here. It's a bit of an unknown just like the last time, but Rafa alone has transformed my pessimistic thinking of us going down again or at least staying in the division, into thinking that we should be challenging at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gottlob Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 At the moment Anita is pretty much our best player and should be the first name on the teamsheet given his ability and consistently high level of effort. He's intelligent and diligent and Rafa seems to trust him. Shelvey's supposed creativity is woefully limited. He can hit a well-weighted long pass if somebody has already made the right run. But he does nothing through clever movement or sharp and consistent short passing to conjure opportunities. And in that sense he's completely different to someone like Guthrie who had an excellent short passing game, and twisted and turned through the midfield despite his lack of physical qualities. Guthrie also played very well for us in the season we finished fifth. Perhaps we could look for that one creative midfielder who will be able to switch defense swiftly into attack and conjure goals out of very little. Otherwise we need a coherent system that allows all of our front players a bit of space and time on the ball. Part of that for me lies in us having at least one attacking full-back. I like Dummett and think he should have a part to play this season, but as competition at centre-back. I certainly don't like the idea of him at left-back and Gamez at right-back. The wide midfielders need some support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 We've probably got the requisite quality to be Champions. My fear was that we didn't have the requisite mentality. Most of the worst offenders are gone/going and everyone we have brought in are leaders in their own fashion. Even captains of their former clubs/national sides. That bodes extremely well and with a couple more additions, plus Rafa, plus what seems like superb pre-season preparation, we should boss the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 At the moment Anita is pretty much our best player and should be the first name on the teamsheet given his ability and consistently high level of effort. He's intelligent and diligent and Rafa seems to trust him. Shelvey's supposed creativity is woefully limited. He can hit a well-weighted long pass if somebody has already made the right run. But he does nothing through clever movement or sharp and consistent short passing to conjure opportunities. And in that sense he's completely different to someone like Guthrie who had an excellent short passing game, and twisted and turned through the midfield despite his lack of physical qualities. Guthrie also played very well for us in the season we finished fifth. Perhaps we could look for that one creative midfielder who will be able to switch defense swiftly into attack and conjure goals out of very little. Otherwise we need a coherent system that allows all of our front players a bit of space and time on the ball. Part of that for me lies in us having at least one attacking full-back. I like Dummett and think he should have a part to play this season, but as competition at centre-back. I certainly don't like the idea of him at left-back and Gamez at right-back. The wide midfielders need some support. That's where I stopped reading Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 I don't know much about Championship midfielders but the three we started with today might be enough. Hayden looks disciplined enough to hold - the only one we've got if Tiote goes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Saivet can play that role too don't forget! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Goals here - http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/10513819/southend-0-2-newcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Saivet can play that role too don't forget! I forget he even exists until someone mentions him same with Riviere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Good link up play from Mitro for the 2nd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 14 goals in pre season, 12 different scorers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 has gayle scored yet btw? EDIT: oh aye he hooked one in in the 6-0 didn't he Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 For once I have faith in the defence and Rafa will definitely have is tight at the back but it's that midfield and still no proven goalscorer that concerns me. Just get sissoko and tiote out and get 2 in. We would still be well in profit this window too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Saivet can play that role too don't forget! Is Saivet even getting a run out in these pre-season matches? I can't remember hearing his name mentioned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 14 goals in pre season, 12 different scorers. 3 clean sheets as well - solid defence will be really important for us this season I reckon, can see a lot of 1-0 wins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 For context, Villa's pre-season seems to be going OK too. http://i.imgur.com/mhVVVX4.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 My mate was at the Cambridge game last night and said he didn't think Villa were particularly impressive and that he doesn't think we have too much to worry about if they're one of our main contenders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John P Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 Lad I know giving the ball away for Vurn's goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Dancer Posted July 27, 2016 Share Posted July 27, 2016 To those who were there, what shirt number was Hanley wearing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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