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He seems to be self-aware, knows he needs to improve, Rafa rates him and we're not even in November. I'm confident he'll come good in this new era...if he doesn't then he won't play and we'll probably strengthen again in Jan. Don't get the vitriol he's getting personally.

Think we'll buy someone in his position in Jan anyway,  just because he's at the African Nations and we've only got Ayoze who can play as an AMC

 

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He seems to be self-aware, knows he needs to improve, Rafa rates him and we're not even in November. I'm confident he'll come good in this new era...if he doesn't then he won't play and we'll probably strengthen again in Jan. Don't get the vitriol he's getting personally.

Think we'll buy someone in his position in Jan anyway,  just because he's at the African Nations and we've only got Ayoze who can play as an AMC

 

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I liked Diame as a player before he arrived here. He proved for West Ham he was good enough in the PL playing CM, he was a massive asset to Hull in their promotion in a more advanced role so he's proved he's capable at this level as well. He admitted fitness issues when he first arrived but now he's fully fit he's still not producing on the pitch. His attitude seems spot on though and he clearly wants to succeed but he's finding it a big struggle right now.

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The abuse is a joke, like. But what more can you expect from the mong element of fans who booed Laurent Robert at the end of a 12-goal/multiple assist season?

 

Issues come down the fact that, although him playing off a striker essentially contributes to Rafa's system, it doesn't really allow him the space on the field to exhibit his talents. He's usually got a man on him for one and there's little happening up ahead of him. He's basically being used to get the best out of those around him, he knows it and it's one of the reasons he's snatching at chances the Diame at WHU and Hull would've tucked away.

 

I like him a lot. He's a boss of a CM if used correctly but if there is one genuine criticism I can level at him it's the fact he looks absolutely done at 70 minutes, especially away from home.

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I still don't think there's any reason that he can't make that position his own in his own way. He's had the chances and missed them, I'd be much more concerned if he wasn't getting those chances at all. He's still someone that I see as being an effective player in that position once he (hopefully) sorts his end product out.

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There's absolutely no way he's the medium or long term answer to that position, though. The Norwich game being a very good example of us looking instantly better with another striker on the field instead of a square peg in a round hole. I'd definitely like to see him in CM with Shelvey at home.

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It would be a good idea, but if Rafa's going to persevere with it, I think it'll work out. It really is just his finishing that's letting him down. You know how it is, a player scores one or two and suddenly their whole performance is seen in a different light. I suppose it depends what you mean by long-term. I think it can work this full season, but obviously not beyond that.

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As if its only his finishing that's letting him down. His all round game has been extremely underwhelming on an individual level. Possibly because he's in the wrong position, possibly not.

 

I disagree, he's had good moments and bad moments. If he'd finished the chances he'd had, the overall perception of him would be totally different. Look at Gayle, he hasn't played badly aside from him goals, but chances/goals are pretty much his sole contribution. He's a quiet player aside from that. Perez scored and assisted the other day and suddenly the last 18 months never happened.

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Well yeah, but finishing chances every now and then is pretty important if he's going to play there and if he's not then he better be pretty great at other stuff.

 

You'd overlook over flaws more if he'd got even 2-3 by now.

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Would like to see him in Shelvey's position tonight, we need to find an alternative to Shelvey as he can't play there every game.

Would be really strange seeing our midfield without Shelvey now

I don't think Rafa trusts Diame to play in a midfield 2

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Think he should be restricted to sub appearances until he sorts his shit out.

 

Still don't see how putting him in at CM will be a good idea, hes been nothing but sloppy so far this season, misplacing passes and running into trouble, we don't need that in midfield.

 

Just let Colback potter on while Hayden does all the work if Shelvey isn't playing.

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