Heron Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 Aye - I don't like criticising those doing their best tbf. Which I feel our squad does. Just so frustrating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 It just shows how much a player is judged on their last performance. Manquillo was fine yesterday, Atsu was terrible, and suddenly Atsu's our worst player. I feel weird even criticising the players when the problem is clearly the choice that lead to players of that level being signed, and rarely is the problem their own effort and application. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 It just shows how much a player is judged on their last performance. Manquillo was fine yesterday, Atsu was terrible, and suddenly Atsu's our worst player. I feel weird even criticising the players when the problem is clearly the choice that lead to players of that level being signed, and rarely is the problem their own effort and application. I've always thought Atsu was fairly terrible mind. He makes the wrong decisions like all the time, and very rarely shows anything other than pace. I agree with the rest though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 I never really think a player isn't trying their best, some of ours like Atsu, Manquillo, Clark, Darlow and such are not good enough, and why Rafa wanted money to spend on better players who make better decisions, who would bring better quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 It just shows how much a player is judged on their last performance. Manquillo was fine yesterday, Atsu was terrible, and suddenly Atsu's our worst player. I feel weird even criticising the players when the problem is clearly the choice that lead to players of that level being signed, and rarely is the problem their own effort and application. I've always thought Atsu was fairly terrible mind. He makes the wrong decisions like all the time, and very rarely shows anything other than pace. I agree with the rest though I liked him in the Championship, but agree that this is beyond his level. As with a lot of them, they're putting the work in but they're just not good enough. I'm hoping Muto and Perez can get something going, because we'll really need a spine that extends further than Dubravka, Lascelles, Shelvey if we're gonna stay up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 7, 2018 Share Posted October 7, 2018 He doesn't even use his pace very effectively. He always has to try and beat a man twice, I can barely remember a time where he's out paced someone for us. I'm not convinced he was even that good in the Championship, he couldn't displace Gouffran for a lot of the season. I thought his best period for us was the first half of last season, West Ham (a) and two Stoke games stick in the mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Spending money doesn't guarantee the player will perform but it certainly raises the odds significantly. Spending the barest minimum pretty much guarantees those same odds are against you. He's a £6.75m player performing like a £6.75m player, just like Joselu and all the other bargain bin cast offs we've got. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Better from him (not saying much given how tragic he's been lately), but that chance, man. Was ready to celebrate like a mad bastard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny36 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Muto should have been on for him the last 10 mins..Atsu was tiring Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Like a new signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Muto should have been on for him the last 10 mins..Atsu was tiring Was waiting to see if Rafa went for Shelvey for Ki or Muto for Atsu, and then he chose neither. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Bit risky to bring Muto on at 1-1 given how little he’s played recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny36 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Atsu probably has played less minutes than Muto.. Didnt think Atsu would last the 90 mins.. Fresher legs with 10 mins remaining might have given us 3 points Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 I had written this lad off but have to say he was excellent against Everton. always involved, creative and actually tackling back leaving opponents Writhing in a heap on a couple of occasions although their play acting was outrageous. No wonder half our team was booked. If Atsu can maintain this level of performance he could stay in the side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 I had written this lad off but have to say he was excellent against Everton. always involved, creative and actually tackling back leaving opponents Writhing in a heap on a couple of occasions although their play acting was outrageous. No wonder half our team was booked. If Atsu can maintain this level of performance he could stay in the side. He's always been incapable of maintaining the level of performance he's capable of. Way too inconsistent to be relied on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 From the match thread it sounded like he missed a sitter at the end, it was actually a decent strike on the half volley from the edge of the penalty area. Could have hit it a bit harder if I was nit-picking, but hitting it first time he was probably trying to ensure accuracy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 From the match thread it sounded like he missed a sitter at the end, it was actually a decent strike on the half volley from the edge of the penalty area. Could have hit it a bit harder if I was nit-picking, but hitting it first time he was probably trying to ensure accuracy. It was his other chance they were on about Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Played better than Kenedy, Ritchie and Perez have done lately Imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Match of the day nor the sky highlights showed his chance at the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newintoon Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Man of the match for me today, won a ton of fouls and made clever runs in behind to relieve the pressure after we was down to 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 He’s in the same boat as Murphy, he needs a run of games. As a winger you have to attack, cross, try and create and be a goal threat. It’s hard to do that coming off the bench or starting 1 game in whatever and because of the way we play, there is an over reliance or rather a bigger importance/expectation/demand he does something when he does come on or start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 I'm not usually a fan but i thought he played very well today, linked up well with Ritchie down the left in the 2nd half in particular. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 That's now 23 games and counting without a goal or an assist to his name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 That's now 23 games and counting without a goal or an assist to his name. This guy is just another who epitomises how shite a squad and how poorly ran we are now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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