Tooj Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Unfortunately I think this is deserving of its own thread, regardless of the fact it took place at our club. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/nov/24/george-ormond The escalating story of sexual abuse in football is now threatening to take in Newcastle United after a former player contacted the police to allege he was another victim on the back of growing concerns about a possible paedophile ring in the sport. The ex-player, whose identity is known to the Guardian, has named George Ormond as the offender, claiming that he was sexually abused by a man who has already had a six-year prison sentence for a string of convictions involving boys from the club’s youth system over a 24-year period. The complainant has been inspired to report the alleged abuse after the Guardian brought to light abuse suffered by former players elsewhere. That began when the former Crewe Alexandra defender Andy Woodward waived his right to anonymity last week to reveal the harrowing accounts of the sexual abuse he endured from the coach, scout and serial paedophile Barry Bennell. Another former Crewe player, Steve Walters, followed suit to tell the Guardian a story of disturbing similarity. David White, best known for his long association at Manchester City, has subsequently come forward to reveal he was another of Bennell’s victims and another former England international, Paul Stewart, has said he was targeted by a separate man who was working in junior football in the Manchester area. A spokesman for Northumbria Police told the Guardian: “We have received a report in relation to an allegation of historic [sic] sexual offences in Newcastle. We are working closely with, and supporting, the victim and enquiries are ongoing.” Ormond was branded a “predatory abuser” by the judge at Newcastle crown court when he was imprisoned, aged 46, in 2002 at the end of a trial that heard how a man once regarded as a highly respected coach in youth circles used his standing to bring youngsters under his power. His case has similarities in that respect with Bennell’s time as a youth-team coach at Crewe and White’s ordeal at Whitehill FC, a junior team affiliated to Manchester City. Bennell, who also had links with Stoke City, coached sides in Greater Manchester, Cheshire, Staffordshire and Derbyshire, but it is only now that the full extent of his crimes is becoming apparent. Woodward believes there could be hundreds of victims and a new NSPCC hotline for footballers, opened with the support of the Football Association, received more than 50 calls in the first two hours. Last week two other former players, speaking to the Guardian, independently named another man from the football world who had abused them, and Cheshire police reported on Wednesday that 11 people had contacted them to talk about the Bennell case. The Guardian is aware of many others who have been abused but chosen not to come forward, including one case where the victim has decided it would be too upsetting for his elderly mother to find out. Ormond denied 15 charges of indecent assault on seven boys, five of whom were under the age of 16, between 1975 and 1999. He was convicted of 12 indecent assaults and one attempted indecent assault after having earlier been acquitted of the other attacks on the directions of the judge. The police investigation into his crimes began after one of the victims secretly recorded a conversation between them, more than a decade after the attacks, and Ormond could be heard apparently apologising. The court was told that Ormond, who argued he was the victim of a conspiracy among his accusers, was “wholly preoccupied with sex” and carried out his attacks at various locations including youth-club changing rooms, his car and at the homes of some victims. Sentencing Ormond, the judge, Esmond Faulks, told him: “The evidence demonstrates you were a predatory abuser of young boys. You used your position as a football coach to target vulnerable young children. You ingratiated yourself with their parents and prevented disclosure by the power you wielded over them as their coach.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 And so it begins. Sickening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Walnuts Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Sky reporting northumbria police are investigating an allegation of historical offences in Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Disgusting that it's happened anywhere and at any club. I know it was a long time ago but I hope the club do their own internal investigation as well and support the police investigation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Does any of this surprise anyone? Sadly not for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
newsted Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Does any of this surprise anyone? Sadly not for me. Nah, this has gone on forever. We had a PE teacher who was disturbingly keen on watching us young kids in the showers and making sure we were washing our bits. I was never good enough at any sport to get any special attention, no idea what he got up to with the good athletes, but we all knew he was really weird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Sickening stuff, the question now has to be was anyone at the club aware and covered it up, or were the club massively negligent in safeguarding the players under it's care. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 No doubt that wrong uns target these situations. Look at that nonce that posted on here for a bit. You'd like to think with the advances made in CRB and reference checks that things like this will be on the wain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 I imagine clubs nowadays will be a lot more stringent but it doesn't mean that people's natural deferment to authority isn't still going to let people get away with it, even if people with prior convictions can't get jobs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 No doubt that wrong uns target these situations. Look at that nonce that posted on here for a bit. You'd like to think with the advances made in CRB and reference checks that things like this will be on the wain. Had part of his ear sliced off in jail, last I heard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 No doubt that wrong uns target these situations. Look at that nonce that posted on here for a bit. You'd like to think with the advances made in CRB and reference checks that things like this will be on the wain. Who? We had a nonce posting on here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 No doubt that wrong uns target these situations. Look at that nonce that posted on here for a bit. You'd like to think with the advances made in CRB and reference checks that things like this will be on the wain. Who? We had a nonce posting on here? http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,94045.msg5473268.html#msg5473268 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 No doubt that wrong uns target these situations. Look at that nonce that posted on here for a bit. You'd like to think with the advances made in CRB and reference checks that things like this will be on the wain. Who? We had a nonce posting on here? http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,94045.msg5473268.html#msg5473268 Grim as ****. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Was already banned on here before he was nicked for noncery because he invaded the pitch at Darlington and punched another poster who'd been forced out of the stands by the surge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Forgot about Kane. For a second I thought he meant Yorkie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Any idea who this former Newcastle player was, who has came forward? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Someone accuse Pards please thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Seems like he doesn't want to be named as yet, so we should probably respect that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Heard Pardew did the noncing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Would be just our luck if it turns out Rafa is a nonce, like. In all seriousness though, this is sickening. Hope everyone involved rots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 my only surprise in this is that it didn't come to light sooner, hopefully they can root out all the evil bastards who've ever done shit like this and that the appropriate precautions are now in place to prevent this kind of thing ever happening again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Fucking hell man, get a grip. No need for jokes relating to Pards and such. Pardew is cunt and someone I hate, but theirs still a difference between being a cunt and being peado. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 f***ing hell man, get a grip. No need for jokes relating to Pards and such. Pardew is c*** and someone I hate, but theirs still a difference between being a c*** and being peado. Could you explain it with a venn diagram ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alijmitchell Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 Does any of this surprise anyone? Sadly not for me. Nah, this has gone on forever. We had a PE teacher who was disturbingly keen on watching us young kids in the showers and making sure we were washing our bits. I was never good enough at any sport to get any special attention, no idea what he got up to with the good athletes, but we all knew he was really weird. We had a bit off a weird PE teacher too who the lasses used to describe as a 'perv'. No reports of any wrongdoing like, just odd behaviour. Anyway on the the whole scandal - it is depressing as fuck. Is it me or does it seem like each time something like this comes out, everyone gets upset and then the story moves on, but it feels like the stories just scratch the surface? It feels like this stuff is much more prevalent than we hear about. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alijmitchell Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 I agree on refraining from speculation on the player. I have a wild speculation, but will leave it off here. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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