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13 minutes ago, TRon said:

Really coming into his own last few games, looked pretty assured coming out with the ball tonight. He's always looked like he's got the tools to be a really good player. Could he be the next James Milner?!

Did you watch the Arsenal game? 

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1 hour ago, neesy111 said:

Did you watch the Arsenal game? 

Ignoring the previous several decent games he’s had for us prior to that, and Bruce ball of course? I think he has a degree of talent above the limitations of this squad/team to justify why we bought him in the first place...

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He's fine if your objective is finishing 17th every season, apart from that he's not that good.

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3 minutes ago, neesy111 said:

He's fine if your objective is finishing 17th every season, apart from that he's not that good.

But we are 13th... I disagree, under the right manager I think he has legs to improve massively, he’s a grade or two above a Ritchie for example. 

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2 minutes ago, HTT II said:
7 minutes ago, neesy111 said:

He's fine if your objective is finishing 17th every season, apart from that he's not that good.

But we are 13th... I disagree, under the right manager I think he has legs to improve massively, he’s a grade or two above a Ritchie for example. 

Absolutely agree with HTT here. Need more people like him and Willock in the squad and less Hendricks and Shelveys.

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5 minutes ago, HTT II said:

But we are 13th... I disagree, under the right manager I think he has legs to improve massively, he’s a grade or two above a Ritchie for example. 

And could be 17th again by Sunday....

Improve massively?  He's at 26, he's not young anymore.

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When he had a difficult first season under Benitez in 17/18 I always tried to defend him, he had a canny run of games in the January before being sporadically used and loaned out. 

If we were taken over, would I want him starting games for Newcastle United? Nah. Under Ashley though, I think he's worth a punt, would give him a new contract. He's got the work rate and all that stuff, he's a fan after all, but he's one of the few we have who can put a decent cross in. Probably poor standards, but I certainly wouldn't mind if he was to stay. Would prefer he get a new deal than maybe Gayle or any of the others with their deals coming to an end.

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3 minutes ago, neesy111 said:

And could be 17th again by Sunday....

Improve massively?  He's at 26, he's not young anymore.

He’s younger than that aye? And I get your point, but the same applies that he’s doing well for a 13th placed side as things stand, and a side being managed by Bruce. He’s no world beater but compared to say Ritchie ability wise, he’s streets ahead and even as a squad player he’s kind of proved his value recently and again he has a bit more about him that shows there is more to offer from him still. Under the right manager of course... I like him, and and rate him as a talent. 

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Just now, HTT II said:

He’s younger than that aye? And I get your point, but the same applies that he’s doing well for a 13th placed side as things stand, and a side being managed by Bruce. He’s no world beater but compared to say Ritchie ability wise, he’s streets ahead and even as a squad player he’s kind of proved his value recently and again he has a bit more about him that shows there is more to offer from him still. Under the right manager of course... I like him, and and rate him as a talent. 

He was 26 in February.  Time is ticking on his career.  I don't see any consistency in him.

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7 hours ago, neesy111 said:

He was 26 in February.  Time is ticking on his career.  I don't see any consistency in him.

Bloody hell, I thought he was 23 or something, in that case I would kind of agree in regards to him developing further, I still think he’s decent enough though, for us anyway.

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Just now, joeyt said:

We can't be 17th by Sunday

Yes you're correct after checking the fixtures.  My fucking bad.  Carry on being the most pedantic poster please.

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He’s probably worth an extension, but that’s symbolic of where we are as a club. Battling to stay in the league each year. They got round him quite easily last night a fair few times.

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20 hours ago, neesy111 said:

He was 26 in February.  Time is ticking on his career.  I don't see any consistency in him.

I can't believe he's 26 and that i'm considering someone born in 1995 as old! :lol:

 

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8 hours ago, Smal said:

He’s probably worth an extension, but that’s symbolic of where we are as a club. Battling to stay in the league each year. They got round him quite easily last night a fair few times.

He’s worth the extension even if it’s just so we can get a fee from any possible transfer. It’s the same story with Gayle. Honestly think we could get at least 5 million each for either player, which is a lot better than nothing we would without the new contracts. I also think we will get a few offers for both also.

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I’m under the opinion that players of any age can improve* with the right coaching and management. He’s not going to suddenly turn into a world class player but I bet he’ll look much better once he’s left us.

 

Maybe not Shelvey or Gayle 

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On 09/05/2021 at 05:30, Shearergol said:

I’m under the opinion that players of any age can improve* with the right coaching and management. He’s not going to suddenly turn into a world class player but I bet he’ll look much better once he’s left us.

 

Maybe not Shelvey or Gayle 

He's actually improved over the course of the season.

I thought he did really well against Sterling, and one or two other City players. They were starting to get irritated with him.

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Against Man City he defended really well, especially against sterling, and was one of the players capable of playing it out of defense. I think he has played better in the wing-back position than as a winger, the team as a whole seem to play a lot better with the 3-5-2 system or 5-3-2 system (whatever your perspective is).

Like said before, would rather Murphy than Jonjo/Hendrick, he seems to have stepped up a notch and hopefully will keep progressing (under another manager? yippee)

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