Other clubs' transfers

[kingxlnc]

18 minutes ago, Kanji said:

Vini - Benz - Rodryigo 

 

Jude - Tchou - Valverde

Benz needs an elite upgrade - Haaland or Mbappe and that's a new generation of galacticos

[El Prontonise]

25 minutes ago, Kanji said:

 

Their Kroos, Modric and Casimero replacements are Bellingham, Tchouameni, and Camavinga.  

 

 

 

Need a manager upgrade now, Carlo only does Europe nowadays.

[KaKa]

Just now, kingxlnc said:

Benz needs an elite upgrade - Haaland or Mbappe and that's a new generation of galacticos

 

Mbappe is very adamant about playing on the left rather than upfront, so not sure that's the number 9 they end up with.

[toon25]

Glad Bellingham won't end up pissing his potential away at Chelsea

[kocunar]

16 hours ago, brummie said:

 

"Malo Gusto" sounds like it should translate to 'bad taste' in some language.

It means "a bit dense" in Croatian.

[Mikky]

14 minutes ago, kingxlnc said:

Benz needs an elite upgrade - Haaland or Mbappe and that's a new generation of galacticos

Signed the Brazilian prodigy (Endrick?)

 

I’m convinced they will buy Mbappe at some point 

[The College Dropout]

54 minutes ago, teohgk said:

fucking hell , how many midfielders they need? How dare La Liga chief complained about EPL spending too much

They've spent less than us these last 2 seasons.

 

Might be close to breaking even in that period.

 

They've been smart by using their prestige to sign elite free agents and the best young players on the planet. They've not bought an elite player in their prime since Hazard. 

[Nucasol]

4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

They've not bought an elite player in their prime since Hazard. 

I imagine portly Eden still haunts the dreams of their recruitment team. Big fan of the patatas bravas.

[Manxst]

Real are only doing well financially because they’ve sold future rights, the same as Barca.

 

“Last summer, the club faced a new cash crisis. The redevelopment plan for the Bernabeu, with a new premium matchday hospitality offering under a new roof and distinctive metallic outer wrap, had grown into a multi-use stadium with scope for concerts and business conferences. Costs were anticipated to rise to €1 billion which would have needed the club’s board to approach JP Morgan to increase the €800 million bond by €200 million. That in turn would have needed the approval of the members at the general assembly last September.

 

The club were also facing a €150 million shortfall for their biannual salary bill coming due in July which totalled €216 million plus €35 million in associated taxes.

To cover these immediate calls on cash, Real negotiated a deal with the US investor Sixth Street to sell 30 per cent of future income from the new Bernabeu, excluding ticketing and any potential naming rights deal, for the next 20 years. That payment of €360 million was to come in two parts, €316 million in May last year and a further €44 million in July, the latter falling within the next financial year. The Sixth Street deal covered the stadium costs and the salary bill and crucially was booked as revenue.

This method of accounting has also been adopted by Barcelona who sold €700 million of future revenue last summer, including television rights and commercial entities to Sixth Street and others. Both clubs have represented this in their financial results as revenue. Others, including Uefa, might choose to see it as debt.

 

Real would have made losses last summer had it not been for the sale of future revenue. These are known as the financial levers - “palancas” – of last resort. The €44m from the original €360 million that was scheduled last summer in the subsequent financial year – the current – suggests that Real anticipate future problems. The sale of Casemiro to Manchester United, a €70 million deal for a then 30-year-old, was a gift Real could not ignore. Yet that is the kind of dream sale that cannot be guaranteed every year.

Real made an operational loss last summer and may well do so again in the current 12 months. It is against this backdrop that they will supposedly take on Manchester City for the signature of the hottest prospect in European football. The club’s president Florentino Perez will no doubt point out that City are facing the most serious suite of charges the Premier League has ever laid against one of its members. Yet a question might also be asked of Madrid: how can selling future revenues that must be repaid be considered anything other than debt?”

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2023/04/13/can-real-madrid-afford-jude-bellingham/

[The College Dropout]

Yes.... because they've spent 1bn euros on renovating the stadium.

 

Not because of spending 1bn on transfers and crazy wages.

 

Barcelona have pulled levers.... to sign 30+ year old players. 

[Manxst]

24 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Yes.... because they've spent 1bn euros on renovating the stadium.

 

Not because of spending 1bn on transfers and crazy wages.

 

Barcelona have pulled levers.... to sign 30+ year old players. 

“The club were also facing a €150 million shortfall for their biannual salary bill coming due in July which totalled €216 million plus €35 million in associated taxes.”

 

 

[ponsaelius]

Real Madrid's new stadium redevelopment will be an absolute game changer for their revenue streams going forward tbf. With the ability to put the pitch under the ground and the covered roof they can host city centre concerts, exhibitions, sports events etc every night of the week that's not an actual matchday. It's a license to print money.

[Manxst]

1 minute ago, ponsaelius said:

Real Madrid's new stadium redevelopment will be an absolute game changer for their revenue streams going forward tbf. With the ability to put the pitch under the ground and the covered roof they can host city centre concerts, exhibitions, sports events etc every night of the week that's not an actual matchday. It's a license to print money.

Agreed. Was just pointing out that they’re hardly the role model when it comes to finances- they’ve gambled with future income, the same as Barca. They might not have recently spent much on transfers (although the fee for Tchouameni was hardly scraping the barrel) but this is only because they spent far beyond their means previously. 

[The College Dropout]

That is tosh. You can look at their transfer record over the last decade. The net spend wouldn’t be in Europe’s top 5 but their revenues would.  
 

You keep saying they are in a similar financial predicament to Barcelona. They are not.  They have invested in a serious revenue driver. Barcelona have not.  

[Manxst]

10 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

That is tosh. You can look at their transfer record over the last decade. The net spend wouldn’t be in Europe’s top 5 but their revenues would.  
 

You keep saying they are in a similar financial predicament to Barcelona. They are not.  They have invested in a serious revenue driver. Barcelona have not.  

Ok, not top 5….but they came 6th in net spend- hardly frugal. Why are they facing a £200m wage shortfall, as stated earlier? 
 

 

[The Prophet]

The Mail reporting that Arsenal's primary targets are Rice and Diaby. 

[SUPERTOON]

 

[gbandit]

Couldn’t see Zaha playing for Arsenal, no chance of that happening 

[TheInfiniteOdyssey]

If that’s true, we need to move on from all those targets. 

[KaKa]

Article says Guehi is on their list too, that would be a great pick up for them.

 

If they can land Rice, Diaby and Guehi those are all really good additions. Interesting.

[KaKa]

1 minute ago, TheInfiniteOdyssey said:

If that’s true, we need to move on from all those targets. 

 

Think we already would have tbh.

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, KaKa said:

Article says Guehi is on their list too, that would be a great pick up for them.

 

If they can land Rice, Diaby and Guehi those are all really good additions. Interesting.

Wonder if Diaby would pick them over us (if we get top 4). He would certainly be first choice here whereas I can’t see him ever being a regular pick above Saka.

[KaKa]

1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said:

Wonder if Diaby would pick them over us (if we get top 4). He would certainly be first choice here whereas I can’t see him ever being a regular pick above Saka.

 

He's very comfortable playing both on the left and the right, and will get a lot of games regardless.

 

I think if we can get Raphinha for similar money that makes more sense for us as he is a more bonafide first teamer that is already proven.

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, KaKa said:

 

He's very comfortable playing both on the left and the right, and will get a lot of games regardless.

 

I think if we can get Raphinha for similar money that makes more sense for us as he is a more bonafide first teamer that is already proven.

I’d definitely prefer Raphinia, I just don’t think it would be cut and dried that Diaby would turn us down for Arsenal 

[The College Dropout]

1 hour ago, Manxst said:

Ok, not top 5….but they came 6th in net spend- hardly frugal. Why are they facing a £200m wage shortfall, as stated earlier? 
 

 

So their net spend was closer to Everton, Liverpool & Arsenal than Manchester United in 5th. Since 2021 i'm sure Arsenal have surpassed Real Madrid's net spend.

 

I bet Real's revenue is top 3 though and much closer to Man Utd than Everton and Arsenal.