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9 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I want smaller clubs to find a way around these. 

 

I'm sure we'll be on it too. But I despise sell-on clauses, they should be banned if being used by a bigger club. For big clubs it's just "we can't be arsed to develop this player, so you have him.. and if it works we'll get more money when he's sold and if it doesn't... oh well we've already sold him".


I agree - if it’s not from their own academy - I mean if it’s not a Longstaff/Carroll who are the club through and through then there should be no sell on fee imo

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Just now, Mikky said:


I agree - if it’s not from their own academy - I mean if it’s not a Longstaff/Carroll who are the club through and through then there should be no sell on fee imo

Even then.... Chelsea & City have the best academies in the country. They just sell those lads on for big fees + sell-on clauses. Chelsea got £10m for Livra from Soton.. then what another £10m when we bought him? 

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51 minutes ago, brummie said:

 

He's not awful. He's also very good on the ball and with the passing forward, which is what UE loves.

 

Emery killing two birds with one stone. Mings out for the season probably. We also need another option at RB, which is where he sometimes uses Konsa. Only now, given we are a CB down, that is riskier. So bringing in Lenglet for the season makes it easier for him to push Konsa to right back, which means we don't have to buy another dedicated RB.

 

Also makes it easier to play the occasional weird formation, like Sunday's 3-5-2 if we are going to use three CBs.

 

It all makes sense.

I’d say he’s comparable to Pau Torres. He’s very good on the ball, but his physicality is lacking and that’s always going to be a problem in the Premier League.

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18 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

I want smaller clubs to find a way around these. 

 

I'm sure we'll be on it too. But I despise sell-on clauses, they should be banned if being used by a bigger club. For big clubs it's just "we can't be arsed to develop this player, so you have him.. and if it works we'll get more money when he's sold and if it doesn't... oh well we've already sold him".

Nothing encourages hoarding potential talent more than these sell on fees. 

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1 hour ago, Froggy said:

 

He's going to be special and he's already good. People act like he scored twice last season. He scored 15 goals for them. :lol:

 

 

Think he attacks the ball too hard if that makes sense. Perfect for his goals Sunday running on, not so much when you need a cool head. He will score lots, especially if they sell salah and use that to get defenders. Pretty good options up front

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1 hour ago, Froggy said:

 

He's going to be special and he's already good. People act like he scored twice last season. He scored 15 goals for them. :lol:

 

 


It was the assorted football media’s insistence on comparing him directly with Haaland which has led to the idea he’s not very good. He’s not an elite striker but could be one in time. 

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Nunez' non-penalty xG+xA per 90 numbers were ridiculous last season. Once he starts to finish those chances he's instantly an elite striker and he did alright on Sunday. It's extremely lazy to call him bad or a flop, sadly. Wilson putting up a juicy number too. 

 

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1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

Nunes really hasn't done anything at Wolves to earn that move.

I don’t think it works like this in 2023, it’s all about potential these days and what a manager such as Pep sees, did Barnes do anything at Leicester to earn his move to Newcastle.

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I like Nunez and he is great at creating havoc and shoots a lot, those are definites. We'll have to see whether they consistently turn into goals against PL goalkeepers. Welbeck is above Kane in that list, but only because it uses xG. Wellbeck has significantly underperformed xG his entire career (i.e., is not a good finisher). Sunday aside, Nunez has not been a good finisher so far.

 

Harvey Barnes put up big numbers at Leicester and easily deserves to play in the Champions League. Maddison may have been a more attractive signing, but all reporting points to Spurs paying him 170k and we can't afford that.

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13 minutes ago, Maineblue said:

I don’t think it works like this in 2023, it’s all about potential these days and what a manager such as Pep sees, did Barnes do anything at Leicester to earn his move to Newcastle.

Yeah scored loads of goals for them

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14 minutes ago, Maineblue said:

I don’t think it works like this in 2023, it’s all about potential these days and what a manager such as Pep sees, did Barnes do anything at Leicester to earn his move to Newcastle.

 

Erm, yeah

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2 hours ago, Deuce said:

I know it’s fashionable to think Nuñez is shit, but I really do think he’s going to be outrageously good for them. He’s got 20+ goals/season potential.


I said in the match thread I was scared when I saw him coming on. The touch and finish from last season’s game told me everything I needed to know about the Nunez. 

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25 minutes ago, Maineblue said:

I don’t think it works like this in 2023, it’s all about potential these days and what a manager such as Pep sees, did Barnes do anything at Leicester to earn his move to Newcastle.

I mean Barnes did score something like 13 league goals last season. That's more than any of our wingers. And for the previous 3 seasons, he's been a double-digit goalscoring winger across all comps - again something none of our wingers have done.

 

I agree that this is based on potential and what they saw of him at Sporting, rather than Wolves. But it's not the same as Barnes.

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1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

Nunes really hasn't done anything at Wolves to earn that move.

 

He did at Sporting though. Remember Pep saying positive things about him back then.

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2 hours ago, r0cafella said:

50% sell on fee, city are playing FM :lol:

 

That Tommy Doyle is highly rated I think, so as they are only paying £5 million I think it's a fair deal.

 

If he does well he probably goes for around £40 million on the low end and Wolves still make a £15 million profit as they get £20 million of that fee.

 

They're basically giving Wolves the player for very little and only then collecting more money if he does well there and is eventually sold on.

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I do like it when a club sells an asset for a lot of money and then go on a mad splurging spree.

 

Wolves are now linked with everyone under the sun, Forest signing everyone because they might be selling Johnson. Even Coventry signing expensive players after they sold their big Swede for loads of money

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