PRL Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said: Aye. Pretty sure the PL prefer the Norwich, Sheff Utd approach though. Go down meakly, provide entertainment to overseas fans by allowing the big clubs to score 5-6 goals against them with ease. Lovely stuff. Removal of relegation by stealth. Get what they wanted by gaming the system Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 5 minutes ago, captainhaircut said: Duran will go to Chelsea for an inflated price and Gallagher will go to Villa for an inflated price. Both win from a PSR perspective and the overall difference between values remains the same. Isn’t that specifically what Juve and Barca got done for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhaircut Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 5 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said: Isn’t that specifically what Juve and Barca got done for? yes but they went silly with it. 70m for Arthur and 60m for Pjanic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapo Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Replacing Luiz with McKennie is akin to replacing Cabaye with Colback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 IIRC @brummie recently mentioned that Luiz looked a shell of his former self this past season and he wouldn’t be surprised/bothered if Luiz was moved on. McKennie was Juventus’s assists leader last season. He’s clearly a good player if utilized correctly. Being dropped in mid-season to a drowning Leeds side isn’t a fair assessment of his ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosstef Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 52 minutes ago, Deuce said: IIRC @brummie recently mentioned that Luiz looked a shell of his former self this past season and he wouldn’t be surprised/bothered if Luiz was moved on. McKennie was Juventus’s assists leader last season. He’s clearly a good player if utilized correctly. Being dropped in mid-season to a drowning Leeds side isn’t a fair assessment of his ability. I expect Emery to get a tune out of McKennie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 2 hours ago, Jaqen said: Perfect deployment. Should be a smiley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 1 hour ago, Chapo said: Replacing Luiz with McKennie is akin to replacing Cabaye with Colback. At least Colback wasn’t 20 clem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 31 minutes ago, toon25 said: Perfect deployment. Should be a smiley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Chelsea seem to have a proper hard on for Duran at Villa Sure they went big for him in January too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 1 hour ago, Disco said: At least Colback wasn’t 20 clem he’s going to put Fat Ronaldo to shame the second he retires. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Just seen that Luiz deal and can’t help but think Villa don’t want to progress. That price too, proper bonkers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Can only think Luiz has some form of betting charges hanging over him.or some shit Absolute shocking deal for villa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 4 hours ago, Nucasol said: So we’re happy for the Sinister Six to cannibalise their nearest upstart contenders? All good here, nothing to see in the World’s Most Competitive League. It's a fair point, buts it's also fair to point out that players can say no to any move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 8 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said: Just seen that Luiz deal and can’t help but think Villa don’t want to progress. That price too, proper bonkers. The fact the deal is concluding in June makes me think it’s an FFP/PSR fire sale. Luiz had 2 years left on his contract and would be after a bumper deal. Sell him now. Don’t know how the accounting will work out but they might be able to claim at as a £50m transfer with the other players as add-ons to the fee. I don’t know how that one works out. IMO it’s the type of sale Ashworth might’ve done for Joelinton if we needed the FFP/PSR headroom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted June 11 Share Posted June 11 Pretty sure Brummie has said that the amortisation on Luiz is already done, so selling him is that 'pure FFP profit' that their owner talked about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 Seems like Juve want Greenwood and want rid of Chiesa who has 1 year left. If ever was the time to make a bid.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 Villa having to sell Luiz in a rush, for under market value because of stupid rules in place to stop clubs challenging is genuinely sickening. I could somewhat understand it if they hadnt made CL but they have. Its an absolute disgrace and is completely ruining the league. Im not sure if I can be arsed with it all while anti-competitive FFP remains in place. Its all we ever fucking hear about. Killing my enjoyment of it. You hear way more about the business side of the game than the actual players and football itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 They're also selling Duran and Cash seemingly for good money. To be honest all seems like good moves early to me - clearing headway for significant investment. This is what we're struggling to do given lack of interest in our players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 12 minutes ago, Doctor Zaius said: Villa having to sell Luiz in a rush, for under market value because of stupid rules in place to stop clubs challenging is genuinely sickening. I could somewhat understand it if they hadnt made CL but they have. Its an absolute disgrace and is completely ruining the league. Im not sure if I can be arsed with it all while anti-competitive FFP remains in place. Its all we ever fucking hear about. Killing my enjoyment of it. You hear way more about the business side of the game than the actual players and football itself. Just wait till the Villa fans realise they could potentially get less money for doing better than City, Arse or Pool in the CL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 1 hour ago, Doctor Zaius said: Villa having to sell Luiz in a rush, for under market value because of stupid rules in place to stop clubs challenging is genuinely sickening. I could somewhat understand it if they hadnt made CL but they have. Its an absolute disgrace and is completely ruining the league. Im not sure if I can be arsed with it all while anti-competitive FFP remains in place. Its all we ever fucking hear about. Killing my enjoyment of it. You hear way more about the business side of the game than the actual players and football itself. If it is Illing Junior and McKennie and 20m, then that's not hugely under market value. Although I do agree with your general point re FFP. If we are maneouvring around PSR constraints then that's understandable. Also, looks like Chelsea are giving us 40m for Jhon Duran. He's very promising but apparently a nightmare in training and prone to petulance, something even other players have hinted at. 15 - 40m in a year is good going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 That McKennie is a decent player and Emery will get a tune out of him. He's had some good seasons at Juve. That loan at Leeds was a blip in comparison. And Illing-Junior is highly thought of and we've even been linked with him a fair bit. He's really young too. Those two plus £20 million for Luiz is not a bad deal for Villa at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 (edited) That's 2 years in a row Chelsea have overpaid for a Villa fringe player for no reason you can point to beyond Chelsea's hateful oniomania. Edited June 12 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 If Chelsea's plan upfront is to have Jackson and Duran that is a good sign. I like both players, but neither are fully polished or fully reliable enough to lead the line as the main man yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 17 minutes ago, brummie said: If it is Illing Junior and McKennie and 20m, then that's not hugely under market value. Although I do agree with your general point re FFP. If we are maneouvring around PSR constraints then that's understandable. Also, looks like Chelsea are giving us 40m for Jhon Duran. He's very promising but apparently a nightmare in training and prone to petulance, something even other players have hinted at. 15 - 40m in a year is good going. Sounds like he'll fit right in at Chelsea then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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