Other clubs' transfers

[andycap]

10 hours ago, STM said:

Hes worth every penny. 

I agree he's a real talent. 

And he's young and can improve a fair bit still. 

[Froggy]

8 minutes ago, Rocker said:

I've thought as Froggy as some sort of benign cyst over the years. On first noticing the lump you're upset, irritated and determined to remove it. Once you're told it's completely harmless, however, you start to build an affinity with the growth and in some ways can't imagine your cock  forum without it. 

 

[Kilcline]

13 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

Wasn't sure where to put this.

I think that's either clickbait or something has got lost in translation, the FIFPRO statement from yesterday mentions only that they are "encouraged," albeit I'm not a legal expert and could well be missing something: https://www.fifpro.org/en/articles/2026/06/what-the-fifpro-and-fifa-agreement-means-for-players

[andycap]

1 hour ago, Dr Venkman said:

That’s fucking stupid.

Yeah marinakis is a master seller. 😂 

[Menace]

To think we potentially have 2 midfielders that came through our academy that are/will be worth £100m each.

 

Imagine when we actually get a new training ground and a new academy - could be the difference between closing the gap. Look how many players City have had come through their academy in recent years.

[Mikky]

11 minutes ago, Menace said:

To think we potentially have 2 midfielders that came through our academy that are/will be worth £100m each.

 

Imagine when we actually get a new training ground and a new academy - could be the difference between closing the gap. Look how many players City have had come through their academy in recent years.

This should and will be part 2 of PIFs term in power - out academy at U16 already has a few gems - and others scattered about in above age groups 

 

Key thing now is Training ground, expanded scouting, loans and possible multi club model - these should be the strategic aims over the next 4 years 

[Froggy]

32 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

You spunk £180m on Sancho & Pogba and it's all good. You can just spunk andther £180m on replacements. If that doesn't work spend another £180m again. Until you finally get it right, which happened this season.

 

We have a shit summer and it's probably set us back years. How's that fair competition? 

 

"Probably." 

 

I personally think you'll be completely fine.

[KennyUtd]

Froggy thinks we'll be fine. Relax boys, the Oracle has spoken. 🙂

[Optimistic Nut]

4 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

"Probably." 

 

I personally think you'll be completely fine.

 

"Fine". And that's just what the cartel want.  Happy to see us in the scrap for minor European spots but unable to long-term dent their place at the top table.

[Froggy]

3 minutes ago, KennyUtd said:

Froggy thinks we'll be fine. Relax boys, the Oracle has spoken. 🙂

 

That's just what I think. 

 

I realise that's a big contrast from you boys being certain you're fucked after a bad summer.

[Kid Icarus]

Whether anyone thinks we'll be fine or suffer isn't really the point. A system set up so that some clubs can fail, then try again with the same financial weight over and over and over again, while others can't is the point.

[TRon]

1 hour ago, Froggy said:

 

He's on a reported £150k a week already. Who's paying him £300k? 

 

Based on a very reputable wages website, that would make him the third highest paid player in the league behind Haaland and Van Dijk. 

 

He's not going to move anywhere unless he gets a significant bump is he? Might not be exactly double but it will be £250k region. Otherwise why bother?

 

 

[Groundhog63]

Why's a bloke, who supports a football team that's in a different country from the one he lives in, on a message board of another team who he doesn't support? Constantly for the WUM?

 

Make it make sense 😉

[Groundhog63]

[Froggy]

4 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said:

Why's a bloke, who supports a football team that's in a different country from the one he lives in, on a message board of another team who he doesn't support? Constantly for the WUM?

 

Make it make sense 😉

 

Falsely accused of constantly for the WUM.

 

Get all forrins out of football. Send Bruno G back home. Send the Saudi's packing and get wor Ashley back in. English only.

[Groundhog63]

Just now, Froggy said:

 

Falsely accused of constantly for the WUM.

 

Get all forrins out of football. Send Bruno G back home. Send the Saudi's packing and get wor Ashley back in. English only.

A step too far. You're dead to me

[Deuce]

People here love baiting Froggy, he gladly takes the bait, they get their panties in a twist, and the rest of us have to sit with multiple pages of this shit.

[Froggy]

2 minutes ago, Deuce said:

People here love baiting Froggy, he gladly takes the bait, they get their panties in a twist, and the rest of us have to sit with multiple pages of this shit.

 

Pretty much it. @Menace is to blame for this one. 

[Optimistic Nut]

1 hour ago, Deuce said:

People here love baiting Froggy, he gladly takes the bait, they get their panties in a twist, and the rest of us have to sit with multiple pages of this shit.

 

I don't mind wummery but he seems to really believe this tripe and I'll continue to call out said tripe. 

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Optimistic Nut

[Froggy]

35 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

I don't mind wummery but he seems to really believe this tripe and I'll continue to call out said tripe. 

 

I'm always called out first. I respond, and people can't take it. That's fact. 

 

I've discussed how I feel about PSR properly when people aren't trying to be dicks about signings we made over half a decade ago. 

 

Do I think we need PSR? Yes. 

 

Do I think PSR benefits bigger clubs? Also yes. 

 

Do I think PSR is solely to blame for the likes of Newcastle not being able to sign Mbeumo and Sesko for example? Absolutely not. 

[KaKa]

[Groundhog63]

20 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

I'm always called out first. I respond, and people can't take it. That's fact. 

 

I've discussed how I feel about PSR properly when people aren't trying to be dicks about signings we made over half a decade ago. 

 

Do I think we need PSR? Yes. 

 

Do I think PSR benefits bigger clubs? Also yes. 

 

The voice of reason

 

 

21 minutes ago, Froggy said:

Do I think PSR is solely to blame for the likes of Newcastle not being able to sign Mbeumo and Sesko for example? Absolutely not. 

 

Back in the mud

[nufcjmc]

28 minutes ago, Froggy said:

 

I'm always called out first. I respond, and people can't take it. That's fact. 

 

I've discussed how I feel about PSR properly when people aren't trying to be dicks about signings we made over half a decade ago. 

 

Do I think we need PSR? Yes. 

 

Do I think PSR benefits bigger clubs? Also yes. 

 

Do I think PSR is solely to blame for the likes of Newcastle not being able to sign Mbeumo and Sesko for example? Absolutely not. 

 

I dont feel your saying anything I disagree with to be fair the fact a line in the sand was drawn and those who started their rise in terms of success/ money/ power/ influence before that date to establish a dominance thats hard (not impossible) to break is just tough luck. 

 

I think the counter argument put is mainly around you being able to "brush off" bad signings you paid a fortune for signings that in the end didnt live up to their fees Sancho/ Antony/ Hojlund / mount etc

 

Now it may never feel like you brush them off at all you have needed to cut costs, sell players, wheel and deal (yes I remember you had to take Weghorst to fill a gap) 

 

I think the issue/ prickly point for me is that we want to take more risks in the market, we want to speculate to accumulate where we can but we cant as our signings need to land consistently. 

 

While this point would be true for all clubs its particularly hard when you want to rise above the ceiling your previous owners have held you to and organic growth doesnt seem that realistic when your best players can just be taken away from you. 

 

You may well be right last seasons mismanagement of funds may be something we brush off and just learn from, we may go on to spend 200m this summer and move forward like big money hasn't already gone out last summer. 

 

I just don't see that happening even if PSR and 3 year cycles is gone the big uplift in money we had due to a big player sale is already gone, we have weaknesses and older players we cant trade our way out of without letting go someone we dont want to rather than someone we no longer have a need for. 

 

You may feel we need to build more slowly and rise our expectations in line with what is realistic with our moderate success/wage structure and income but just very much feels like we are starting from a point of weakness thanks to the previous owner and the landscape we are now in is very much that teams have commercially left us behind we are trying to catch up but those ahead are not sitting still not also improving. 

 

Honestly your a great poster and your probably just trying to see it from non black and white lens its just frustrating and at times feels unfair when in theory our owners can financially give us anything we need but aren't allowed to and unrealistically we need everything to hit/ everything to land/ everything to go well just to have a chance. In theory 1 signing Isak helped us build momentum and his sale has felt like we are on a slipper slope going backwards due to it (could be different next season but if its not that has been the catalyst to both a rise and fall) 

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by nufcjmc

[Menace]

2 hours ago, Froggy said:

 

Pretty much it. @Menace is to blame for this one. 

 

We'd gone 2 weeks without the wages and PSR conversation - thought it was getting stale. You're welcome.

[Yorkie]

The point isn't: "PSR stopped Newcastle from buying Bryan Mbeumo."

 

The point is: "PSR stopped Newcastle from signing literally any top-tier player on the market, whilst simultaneously funneling said players to direct rivals, whilst simultaneously funneling Newcastle's existing top-tier player to direct rivals."

 

(Obviously it's not just Newcastle that this affects).