MagMal Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Where the fuck do Chelsea keep getting money from, did the new guys just get the club for free? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, MagMal said: Where the fuck do Chelsea keep getting money from, did the new guys just get the club for free? They had £1.5bn debt written off as part of the deal, so can now spend freely and get back into debt again… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagMal Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Manxst said: They had £1.5bn debt written off as part of the deal, so can now spend freely and get back into debt again… Cheating bastards, and people are upset about our potential spending, the sooner we smash the top six the better and the sweeter those salty tears will taste ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Sticking rigidly to FFP when other clubs are casually giving it the V's as they ride by laughing at it is going to get annoying sooner or later. Other clubs don't give the first fuck about it, why do we? Doing things by the book is admirable. And it'll also take us twice as long to get where we want to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, midds said: Sticking rigidly to FFP when other clubs are casually giving it the V's as they ride by laughing at it is going to get annoying sooner or later. Other clubs don't give the first fuck about it, why do we? Doing things by the book is admirable. And it'll also take us twice as long to get where we want to be. Out of interest, which clubs aren't sticking to FFP? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Man City almost certainly aren't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 1 minute ago, STM said: Out of interest, which clubs aren't sticking to FFP? Everton are the obvious example. Their 'covid losses' were ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) I think maybe it's more that a lot of clubs are finding ways around it, than flat out ignoring it. Everton and their bollocks covid lies. Barcelona with their selling of TV rights, Man City and their weird sponsorships etc. Edited August 3, 2022 by LionOfGosforth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, STM said: Out of interest, which clubs aren't sticking to FFP? Man City for one- still under investigation for various things including false sponsorship payments Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) We spent over 90 million in January, not an expert in FFP but I’m guessing spending all that plus what we’ve already spent this summer with no outgoing transfers for money hasn’t helped, plus lack of a high end sponsorship deal? Edited August 3, 2022 by black_n_white Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 1 minute ago, black_n_white said: We spent over 90 million in January, not an expert in FFP but I’m guessing spending all that plus what we’ve already spent this summer with no outgoing transfers for money hasn’t helped? We’re still well within ffp limitations due to how Ashley ran the club. We just don’t seem to want to splash lots at the current time due to then not being able to spend lots again in the future under our current sponsorship income. Once sponsorship improves to match the top clubs, we’ll be able to have more leeway for transfers, but it seems we’ll have to wait until next year for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Everton are fucked and are having to sell their best players in order to make a few shite signings. Chelsea got caught up and prevented from signing players 2 seasons ago. I haven't looked closely at Man City's spending this window but it looks as though they haven't spent much; sold Sterling, Zinchenko and Phillips. I'm not trying to be argumentative, it just seems as though the "big six" spend alot of money because they have huge commercial income, combined with regular champions league football. They aren't playing the same FFP game as us. Meanwhile the likes of Villa and Leeds are spending money because they sold players. We've spent 150m and are likely to spend more and we have neither the commercial deals or the players to sell at this stage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfmk2 Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 I reckon we're keeping the powder dry until we get a bluechip Saudi sponsor on our shirts and then we'll go fucking banzai, particularly if it's that new Saudi airline that's been mooted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, STM said: Everton are fucked and are having to sell their best players in order to make a few shite signings. Chelsea got caught up and prevented from signing players 2 seasons ago. I haven't looked closely at Man City's spending this window but it looks as though they haven't spent much; sold Sterling, Zinchenko and Phillips. I'm not trying to be argumentative, it just seems as though the "big six" spend alot of money because they have huge commercial income, combined with regular champions league football. They aren't playing the same FFP game as us. Meanwhile the likes of Villa and Leeds are spending money because they sold players. We've spent 150m and are likely to spend more and we have neither the commercial deals or the players to sell at this stage. Man City have bought over £100m with Haaland and Philips, although, as you say, they’ve sold Sterling and Zinchenko too. we have spent our cash, but are still well within what we can and (are allowed to) spend, due to the relative thrift we’ve had in previous years. you’re right though, in that the top clubs spend what seems like a disproportionately excessive amount due purely to the huge sponsorship and commercial deals they have- far above the likes of us as it currently stands. Hopefully this will be rectified next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Manxst said: Man City have bought over £100m with Haaland and Philips, although, as you say, they’ve sold Sterling and Zinchenko too. we have spent our cash, but are still well within what we can and (are allowed to) spend, due to the relative thrift we’ve had in previous years. you’re right though, in that the top clubs spend what seems like a disproportionately excessive amount due purely to the huge sponsorship and commercial deals they have- far above the likes of us as it currently stands. Hopefully this will be rectified next year. Yeah that's why I'm not getting worked up. The eyes of the league are on our spending right now. They would love nothing better than preventing us from spending by us getting in trouble with FFP. Let's go under the radar and let Eales work his magic for the next 12 months. Next summer will be a different game. In 12 months we will have a set of squad players who will look remotely attractive to other clubs. Resigning Schar and Longstaff might look a masterstroke when we add x amount to our kitty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Levi Colwill to Brighton is such a clever signing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 32 minutes ago, midds said: Sticking rigidly to FFP when other clubs are casually giving it the V's as they ride by laughing at it is going to get annoying sooner or later. Other clubs don't give the first fuck about it, why do we? Doing things by the book is admirable. And it'll also take us twice as long to get where we want to be. Other clubs won't get nailed to the wall if they find ways round FFP, we absolutely will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, TRon said: Other clubs won't get nailed to the wall if they find ways round FFP, we absolutely will. In which case the lawyers take over and look for inconsistencies in the interpretation and applications of the rules. Let's see how that plays out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 31 minutes ago, STM said: Everton are fucked and are having to sell their best players in order to make a few shite signings. Chelsea got caught up and prevented from signing players 2 seasons ago. I haven't looked closely at Man City's spending this window but it looks as though they haven't spent much; sold Sterling, Zinchenko and Phillips. I'm not trying to be argumentative, it just seems as though the "big six" spend alot of money because they have huge commercial income, combined with regular champions league football. They aren't playing the same FFP game as us. Meanwhile the likes of Villa and Leeds are spending money because they sold players. We've spent 150m and are likely to spend more and we have neither the commercial deals or the players to sell at this stage. Chelsea got banned from signing players because they were tapping up players and looking to sign them before they legally could, it had nothing to do with FFP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Just now, Stifler said: Chelsea got banned from signing players because they were tapping up players and looking to sign them before they legally could, it had nothing to do with FFP. Ah didn't know that. Interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, midds said: In which case the lawyers take over and look for inconsistencies in the interpretation and applications of the rules. Let's see how that plays out TBF, we have just hired lawyers, almost certainly for this purpose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 45 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Man City almost certainly aren't Aye they only got away with it because of a technicality Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Stifler said: Chelsea got banned from signing players because they were tapping up players and looking to sign them before they legally could, it had nothing to do with FFP. They also got warned by UEFA regarding over inflated sponsorship deals… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, triggs said: Aye they only got away with it because of a technicality They’re still under investigation by some agencies (including the PL?) I believe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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