WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Baffling why Mbemba was randomly frozen out and why he insists on flogging a dead three-legged Spanish horse up top. Too slow to make changes today too. That said, if we'd backed him we'd potentially be doing as well as Watford are. Daft. Horselu, lu, lu, turn the cunt to fucking glue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Baffling why Mbemba was randomly frozen out and why he insists on flogging a dead three-legged Spanish horse up top. Too slow to make changes today too. That said, if we'd backed him we'd potentially be doing as well as Watford are. Daft. Horselu, lu, lu, turn the c*** to f***ing glue. Cuntelu, lu, lu, misses sitters when put through Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Honolulu, lu, where we'll send this cunt off to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Wrong team selection today. I know he's picking from a group of mainly Championship standard players but when he's putting Diame and Joselu in the starting XI people are within their rights to ask questions of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Its all a cunning plan to make Fat Mike sell asap at a decent price Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 His reluctance to make any significant changes before 65 minutes is worrying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Wrong team selection today. I know he's picking from a group of mainly Championship standard players but when he's putting Diame and Joselu in the starting XI people are within their rights to ask questions of him. The Diame selection was forced on him to some extent due to Merino and Hayden being out, but the refusal to use Mitrovic is the one I can't get my head around. I'm not his biggest fan, but he's got more goals in him than Joselu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 His reluctance to make any significant changes before 65 minutes is worrying. He has done that his entire career Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 His reluctance to make any significant changes before 65 minutes is worrying. He has done that his entire career Doesn’t make it okay. As soon as Watford scored their first we were second best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Mitrovic and Merino had to come on at ht, we were being being pissed on all all over the the park. I was very worried by his formation today. We got absolutely battered, and Rafa has to take his fair share of criticism for it: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Anyone not blinded by the light that shines out his arse like they were a few months ago? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 As with Graham Carr, I don't think it's reasonable to criticize someone's transfer activity by just mentioning individual failures. General failure rates in the transfer market are pretty high, and I'd harbour a guess that even the best of the best, e.g. Fergie, Wenger, Guardiola, etc, have signed as many duds as they did stars, if not more. Even managers with massive budgets able to sign experienced and established top tier players from the top leagues, i.e. as close to a guarantee of success as you can normally get, consistently make bad signings. And the lower down the feeding trough you go the higher the percentage of failures because short of exceptional circumstances it's slim pickings and inherent gambles at this point, especially if we're talking about signing youngsters for the future or players with zero experience of football in this country. Whilst that doesn't mean managers and scouts should be excused for high failure rates and ridiculously wasteful spending, it does mean any criticisms need to be within context. There's no use naming individual flops Rafa has signed if it's not within the context of (a) establishing what you think a reasonable success rate in the transfer market should be, and (b)identifying what the current success rate actually is and how it measures to expectations. For example, imo Rafa's bad signings (players who outright failed here) so far would be Sels, Joselu, Manquillo, Lazaar, Hanley, and possibly J.Murphy, though he's arguably one for the future. His average signings (and by that I mean players who have done the job required of them at the point of signing) have been Gayle, Atsu, Ritchie, D.Murphy, Diame, and Gamez. Good signings (i.e. PL calibre players) have been Merino, Lejeune, Clark, and Yedlin. So that's 5 or 6 bad signings out of a possible 16, with 4 of them being good and 6 being decent, which in my books is a 62% success rate in transfers. And before we factor in prices paid, it needs to be remembered that most of these were signings made whilst in the Championship. Rafa has only had one transfer window as a Premiership team, and in that window where Ashley clearly decided he didn't want to spend as he is going to sell the club, Rafa had a ridiculously small budget (given the recent explosion in player valuations and transfer fees), and then on top of that he was duped, misled, and lied to by Ashley, Barnes and Charnley with respects to the preferred targets. Of course we over paid on paper for Murphy et al, in the most recent window. So in short, it's a tad nonsensical to say Rafa has been wasteful in the transfer market at this point in time. You'd need at least the January and Summer 2018 windows, assuming he has money to spend, to even begin to have a reasonable judgement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Anyone not blinded by the light that shines out his arse like they were a few months ago? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Not being funny, but a few more bad results and the fat c*** might start getting an itchy trigger finger on a sacking. Which would not surprise me in the slightest. Takeover hinges on Rafa being here. No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Rafa Out... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Re transfers: everyone bough in the Champo was meant to get us promoted. The PL is another beast entirely. Lejeune has done nothing to suggest he’s a good signing. Looks a bad one for now imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vedder Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Not being funny, but a few more bad results and the fat c*** might start getting an itchy trigger finger on a sacking. Which would not surprise me in the slightest. We're only a Rafa resigning away from the club imploding IMO. I think Ashley realises this and is why he's after a quick sale. No way is he getting sacked at this stage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Seriously, let’s not panic. This isn’t fucking Pardew, McClaren or Carver we are talking about. Rafa is due a bad run in football/here and this is that time. He needs to drop Joselu though, he is to scoring what Trump is to diplomacy. A fucking disaster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 never been so mad with him; trying to remind myself that this is Rafa fucking Benitez and I need to calm down but I'm furious with that result, performance and his selection today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Perhaps a statement to Ashley to hurry the fuck up... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDonis Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 As a seasoned Rafa watcher, I'm confused about why he's changed formation. The football might have been turgud, but his 4-2-3-1 makes you hard to beat at least. And occasionally you nick it. Why change to a formation which leaves you more open? Very very un Rafa-like to go in search f goals and ditch what was (sort of) working. I wonder what gives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 As a seasoned Rafa watcher, I'm confused about why he's changed formation. The football might have been turgud, but his 4-2-3-1 makes you hard to beat at least. And occasionally you nick it. Why change to a formation which leaves you more open? Very very un Rafa-like to go in search f goals and ditch what was (sort of) working. I wonder what gives. I think it was Perez losing form and playing so poorly that brought the change. We have no other 10, something Rafa was desperate to buy. Personally i think we should have gone 4-5-1 for the last few games with Merino and Shelvey breaking from midfield with Hayden holding. Merino's injury stopped that option too though if it was something Rafa might have tried. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 As a seasoned Rafa watcher, I'm confused about why he's changed formation. The football might have been turgud, but his 4-2-3-1 makes you hard to beat at least. And occasionally you nick it. Why change to a formation which leaves you more open? Very very un Rafa-like to go in search f goals and ditch what was (sort of) working. I wonder what gives. I honestly think there's a chance he's doing it on purpose to try hurry the takeover along - we've been so wide open the last couple of games it almost has to be deliberate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 As a seasoned Rafa watcher, I'm confused about why he's changed formation. The football might have been turgud, but his 4-2-3-1 makes you hard to beat at least. And occasionally you nick it. Why change to a formation which leaves you more open? Very very un Rafa-like to go in search f goals and ditch what was (sort of) working. I wonder what gives. It might be because he's not got a lot of confidence in the defenders at the moment. Even with the 4-5-1 we were giving some daft goals away, although since we changed formation, that's gone much worse. I think he'll be very pissed off at some of the defensive displays in the last couple of games regardless of us having nothing up front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 As a seasoned Rafa watcher, I'm confused about why he's changed formation. The football might have been turgud, but his 4-2-3-1 makes you hard to beat at least. And occasionally you nick it. Why change to a formation which leaves you more open? Very very un Rafa-like to go in search f goals and ditch what was (sort of) working. I wonder what gives. Maybe people have been getting onto him about 'boring football'. We don't have the players for a 442 and expansive football he knows that and always knew that. He knows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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