Twinport53 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Doesn't get the club, city or fans. *checks poll* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Yeah I'm sure under Pardew, Kinnear or McClanger we'd have battered Brighton today. Have a word man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 There are no words. We don't deserve a takeover tbh. There are no words. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 World class manager, maybe. Just not here IMO. Great bloke, gets the club, city and fans. However, his football does not get the fans, city or club. Any other manager, we would be all over them. For these reasons, s no reason to keep him. We are looking worse by the week, not better. He should be doing better. Time to move on. Fair enough, so who is your man to replace him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 If Rafa leaves while Ashley is still in charge, it'll probably be the climax of a course of events that means I fall out of love with this club. As such, I'll piss myself at the reactions of the people currently calling for his exit, when it dawns on them that Ashley's foregone the signing of a new player so he can invest in a top of the line pacemaker ready for Kinnear's return. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 World class manager, maybe. Just not here IMO. Great bloke, gets the club, city and fans. However, his football does not get the fans, city or club. Any other manager, we would be all over them. For these reasons, s no reason to keep him. We are looking worse by the week, not better. He should be doing better. Time to move on. Fair enough, so who is your man to replace him? None of the anti Rafa lot ever answer that question. Odd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 World class manager, maybe. Just not here IMO. Great bloke, gets the club, city and fans. However, his football does not get the fans, city or club. Any other manager, we would be all over them. For these reasons, s no reason to keep him. We are looking worse by the week, not better. He should be doing better. Time to move on. Fair enough, so who is your man to replace him? None of the anti Rafa lot ever answer that question. Odd. Either people back up their argument with names, or just shut the fuck up. So let's hear those names folks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 World class manager, maybe. Just not here IMO. Great bloke, gets the club, city and fans. However, his football does not get the fans, city or club. Any other manager, we would be all over them. For these reasons, s no reason to keep him. We are looking worse by the week, not better. He should be doing better. Time to move on. Worst thing I’ve ever read, and I’ve read The Da Vinci Code. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Not one manager available could do anything with this squad. I'm amazed Rafa is still here. He's got a championship team taking points from premiership teams. Loads of tossas calling for his head but can't give a better replacement. Says it all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 It's probably fair to say he's hardly covering himself in glory this season, but he's still the most accomplished and decorated manager we've had in my lifetime. In spite of all the saviour stuff, I want to see him given a new board, some transparency, a proper budget and time to nit things together. He's already made great strides in improving the club on the whole since he's been here, he just isn't making things tick on the pitch at the moment. Mainly because the squad is fucking terrible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 This squad is on par with Mick McCarthy's Sunderland sides, or that godawful Derby side who only beat us. Doubt anyone could do much better with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 It's probably fair to say he's hardly covering himself in glory this season, but he's still the most accomplished and decorated manager we've had in my lifetime. In spite of all the saviour stuff, I want to see him given a new board, some transparency, a proper budget and time to nit things together. He's already made great strides in improving the club on the whole since he's been here, he just isn't making things tick on the pitch at the moment. Mainly because the squad is f***ing terrible. This right here should speak volumes about why he's the right person for us. In an era where the club has been rotten to the core, he's done a lot to initially unite the fans and bring some level of hope back to the city. Now after 3 months of his squad performing like he said they would before a ball was kicked this season, people are actually calling for him to be sacked. It's ridiculous. Most of the players he has wouldn't be getting a sniff of the first team if he was able to get his summer targets in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IneedAbed Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 He's our last best hope. He leaves and takeover collapses, This next 6 months is pivotal in the history of the club, We must support the guy. This is not fifa where you can drop shelvey and bring in hayden because both their stats are 82. We know as much as Lee Ryder in regards of who should be in the matchday squad. We are organised shite. Mike stays , Rafa leaves and whats the point . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 I don't want him sacked, I still want him to be our manager, but I won't be surprised that he is heavily criticised nor I would spend any effort defending him. In short, he has done a lot of things that do him no favour, and make himself fulnerable to critics. The handling of Mitrovic, the signings (if the player is that shit, why waste money?), Gamez Mbemba and Manquillo, 12m spent on a bench player instead of starting 11, persistence of Ritchie, suicidal 442, strange subs etc. He deserves the sticks. Rightly so. He is "failing" in the sense that he didn't really utilise all his resources on hand. Just he shouldn't be sacked due to no replacement and as some people said "his hand is tied". It has been said last season already. A "world class manager", "top elite in Europe", should be better than this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Mbemba aside (McClaren signing) there’s not a lot that can be argued with in that middle paragraph tbf. Once the Palace (A) game is done we’ll be in a better place to judge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 He shouldn't be sacked because he's by some distance the best manager we could ever have, I don't even know why anyone would even contemplate the idea. Even if we get relegated I wouldn't sack him although I think he'd walk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IneedAbed Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Imagine this farce if we were doing well above expectations : ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 I reckon we could probably attract Pardew back once West Brom sack him. Knows the club, gets on with Ashley and most importantly plays attacking football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IneedAbed Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 6 weeks , this is ashleys fault, lets remember. Lets move forward. Lets judge when the horse and the cart are in the same arena . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Hopefully he’s backed this window if not we are in deep trouble. My support for him is unwavering as many have posted context is king. I just hope the doubters bare in mind we are In profit for transfer under him, yes we haven’t spent a penny under his watch and he’s doing his absolutely best the man is a perfectionist who analyses everything. I fully appreciate the style is pretty dreadful right now but we are working in a division which continues to move forward teams investing vast sums year after year where as we continue to scrape the bottom of the barrel and have done for the ten years. We can’t and won’t be successful until this changes and there is nothing Rafa or anyone else can do to change that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Catching-up with this just made me feel better about doing Xmas/New Year meals with the ‘outlaws’ and randoms. It might have been GeordieDean and HTT round the table!!! (I’d just pretend not to like football). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 World class manager, maybe. Just not here IMO. Great bloke, gets the club, city and fans. However, his football does not get the fans, city or club. Any other manager, we would be all over them. For these reasons, s no reason to keep him. We are looking worse by the week, not better. He should be doing better. Time to move on. Worst thing I’ve ever read, and I’ve read The Da Vinci Code. raised a welcome laugh. Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Apparently the switch in formation was down to long-term fitness levels. The fitness team looked at the stats and concluded that if we played the way we were playing at the beginning of the season for the whole year, that the players would all be knackered by about now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Apparently the switch in formation was down to long-term fitness levels. The fitness team looked at the stats and concluded that if we played the way we were playing at the beginning of the season for the whole year, that the players would all be knackered by about now. Well they have had 2 months rest now so let's switch it back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Apparently the switch in formation was down to long-term fitness levels. The fitness team looked at the stats and concluded that if we played the way we were playing at the beginning of the season for the whole year, that the players would all be knackered by about now. Well that’s a daft move as we’d arguably have more points, more breathing space and a transfer window to put it right. God forbid these little darlings ever go on a cup run or Europe. Think pardew has something to say about Europe and fitness one time, maybe someone can remind me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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