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Would you have Rafa back?   

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  1. 1. Would you have Rafa back?

    • Yes, as manager, immediately
      101
    • Yes, as manager, but at some point in the future (eg if relegated)
      97
    • Yes, in an advisory or DoF role
      74
    • No, not in any meaningful capacity
      132

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Stifler

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They Don't ...

Even if Ashley doesn’t have the same ambition, I think he realises now hat he won’t be able to get away with giving that impression.

I believe Ashley is off in the summer, but even if there was spanner thrown in the works he knows he needs to keep people inside as it will turn uglier than ever before.

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Tiresias

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Sigh. I don't mean to be negative, I do think Ashley will maybe do enough to keep Rafa if only because that seems easiest and he can stick money on value of club for having Rafa here, but people again and again seem to expect Ashley to act rationally, to realise, to do something that makes sense. How many times does he have to shaft the club, to undermine any hope of progress before people realise. Ashley. Does. Not. Act. In. The. Clubs. Interests. I think there is sadly a reasonable chance that he hates Rafas popularity and hates the leverage Rafa has and will sack him if only to prove he is in charge.

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Big Geordie

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Belting photo that - new desktop background :cool:

 

Can only hope that Ashley gives Benitez what he wants to make a proper go of it. What I'm afraid of is that Ashley goes silent and leaves him in limbo - again. Remember, the man is a proper cunt.

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No manager since KK has stated his ambitions in this way, he wants to win the Europa League with us, that means he believe we can. Match him or fuck off Ashley or risk fucking him off then we go again back to square one.

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I bet I’ve posted less words on here than most.

 

:lol: You must be joking.

 

For every ‘big’ post I must post 20 or more brief ones.

 

#edit 21 now

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Karjala

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The club's future is on a knife edge, back Rafa or sell to a owner that will and the good times will be back. Don't back Rafa and we'll be back in the championship before we know it, and without a manager to save us.

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Rafa has fallen for us in a big way, it must be amazing for him to walk out at St James every week and be universally adored and then turn up at every away ground with 3000 geordie faithfuls behind him win lose or draw. Ashley would be crazy to let him go 

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https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/rafa-benitez-warns-cannot-keep-14562179

“I think this season, for these players, the staff, the club, the fans, it has been a fantastic achievement. Brighton, Huddersfield, they have also done a fantastic job, but it’s different because everyone was expecting more of Newcastle United because of the fans, the stadium etcetera,” Benitez said.

 

“But it was not the case, we were spending less than them. They were expecting us to beat Manchester City and Liverpool, because we have done in the past. No-one expected that of Brighton. It was more difficult for us.

 

“What I don’t want next year, if we finish in the top 10, is for people to say, ‘Okay, fine, now you must finish in the top six’. To do that you must have a real project with a realistic business plan and with an idea of the target and the tools to achieve that target.”

 

He continued: “I cannot do miracles every year so then you have to have the tools to be sure that you can do your job. I did it at Napoli, Inter or any team that we were around. (At) Valencia, when we had the tools and we had the support, we could win. That’s it.

 

“I want to win, It’s true, I am a young manager who wants to win. But at the same time, I spend a lot of time coaching players and improving them so I do not have any problem with young players because they will grow and become much better players. But you need to win.

 

“So you need players with experience. When we had problems in the Championship, or in the Premier League with this squad, we needed experience. So it is not just ‘Oh, the manager is calm, he has vast experience”’ because you don’t play.

 

“Players with experience can replicate that on the pitch and give confidence to those around them. And then you will be a better, more competitive team and as well you can try and win trophies. I am not saying you have to win the league, because maybe you will need a lot of times to do that to go there.

 

“But to compete for the League Cup, the FA Cup (you need) to have a team that you can change, rotate players and have a good eleven. That’s it.”

 

Benitez recognises it would be some achievement to finish above Everton but he doesn’t want the climax of his time at Newcastle to be mid-table stability.

 

“Yes it would be, but still if we had finished above 17th this season then it would have been a success,” Benitez added.

 

“If we finish 12th, or 11th, or 10th, or ninth - then much better. But my objective is not to finish ninth; it is to win, to win titles and cups, or something like that.

 

“That is what I want to do. I was talking about a team who in the middle of the Spanish league and everyone was saying that they have been having a fantastic season; they finished 10th, 14th, eighth. That doesn’t change too much for me.

 

“To be in the top four, to win trophies, to win the league, or whatever, that is what I want to do. It’s not just survival or mid-table.

 

“Obviously, I know the reality, when you finish ninth or eighth or 10th is better than if you finish 15th, but still what I want is to be sure that we can fight for trophies.”

 

Benitez feels Newcastle are moving in the ‘right direction’ but insists they must do more to continually improve.

 

“I think that when we came here. We couldn’t save the team but to win the Championship, to change the mood and to change a lot of players, I think was a bigger step forward.

 

“And to stay in the Premier League is an even bigger step forward towards reaching the potential of this massive club.

 

“We are going in the right direction, then we have to carry on in the same direction so cannot make the mistakes made in the past. We have to see what happens.

 

“We have to change things if we want to improve. We did a lot of things right but can we improve? Yes, a lot of things. They know my idea. When I see Lee we talk about what we have to do in a different way, so they know already where we are.”

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“I think this season, for these players, the staff, the club, the fans, it has been a fantastic achievement. Brighton, Huddersfield, they have also done a fantastic job, but it’s different because everyone was expecting more of Newcastle United because of the fans, the stadium etcetera,” Benitez said.

 

“But it was not the case, we were spending less than them. They were expecting us to beat Manchester City and Liverpool, because we have done in the past. No-one expected that of Brighton. It was more difficult for us.

 

“What I don’t want next year, if we finish in the top 10, is for people to say, ‘Okay, fine, now you must finish in the top six’. To do that you must have a real project with a realistic business plan and with an idea of the target and the tools to achieve that target.”

 

He continued: “I cannot do miracles every year so then you have to have the tools to be sure that you can do your job. I did it at Napoli, Inter or any team that we were around. (At) Valencia, when we had the tools and we had the support, we could win. That’s it.

 

“I want to win, It’s true, I am a young manager who wants to win. But at the same time, I spend a lot of time coaching players and improving them so I do not have any problem with young players because they will grow and become much better players. But you need to win.

 

“So you need players with experience. When we had problems in the Championship, or in the Premier League with this squad, we needed experience. So it is not just ‘Oh, the manager is calm, he has vast experience”’ because you don’t play.

 

“Players with experience can replicate that on the pitch and give confidence to those around them. And then you will be a better, more competitive team and as well you can try and win trophies. I am not saying you have to win the league, because maybe you will need a lot of times to do that to go there.

 

“But to compete for the League Cup, the FA Cup (you need) to have a team that you can change, rotate players and have a good eleven. That’s it.”

 

“Yes it would be, but still if we had finished above 17th this season then it would have been a success,” Benitez added.

 

“If we finish 12th, or 11th, or 10th, or ninth - then much better. But my objective is not to finish ninth; it is to win, to win titles and cups, or something like that.

 

“That is what I want to do. I was talking about a team who in the middle of the Spanish league and everyone was saying that they have been having a fantastic season; they finished 10th, 14th, eighth. That doesn’t change too much for me.

 

“To be in the top four, to win trophies, to win the league, or whatever, that is what I want to do. It’s not just survival or mid-table.

 

“Obviously, I know the reality, when you finish ninth or eighth or 10th is better than if you finish 15th, but still what I want is to be sure that we can fight for trophies.”

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Alberto2005

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Benitez will definitely stay till the end of the summer transfer window, but another window like last season and he may walk this time.

 

Ashley will never change and needs to go for us to realise Rafa's ambition. The time for a new owner would be perfect, there surely must be interest now we've stayed up.

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mrmojorisin75

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it's all there in black and white like

 

“I want to win games and I want to win trophies and I want to have the tools to be capable of competing. At the same time. I like to improve players, coach players, follow a business plan, a realistic business plan in modern football. I have no problem with that because I did it in the past.

 

we'd all prefer a takeover but if the minimum the cunt does is just stand aside and let rafa run the club within it's own means i don't think rafa would be that bothered myself

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Benitez will definitely stay till the end of the summer transfer window, but another window like last season and he may walk this time.

 

Ashley will never change and needs to go for us to realise Rafa's ambition. The time for a new owner would be perfect, there surely must be interest now we've stayed up.

 

most likely will see his contract out either way- but will wait and see how this transfer window pans out before signing a new deal.

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Raconteur

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Benitez will definitely stay till the end of the summer transfer window, but another window like last season and he may walk this time.

 

Ashley will never change and needs to go for us to realise Rafa's ambition. The time for a new owner would be perfect, there surely must be interest now we've stayed up.

 

most likely will see his contract out either way- but will wait and see how this transfer window pans out before signing a new deal.

 

This is it for me, too. He won't walk in September (or whenever the window closes next season), but there's no way he's signing a contract extension before then either, unless Ashley delivers (i.e. not "promises") big enough during the window to convince Rafa to sign earlier.

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Stifler

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New owners at Liverpool drove him out the door so no guarantees that wouldn't happen here.

Aye, considering he was the one who brought the club to the person who is most likely going buy us and has been described as essential in any deal to buy us.
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