wormy Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Fantail with an avatar makes me unreasonably uneasy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 10 minutes ago, wormy said: Think it's as simple as Everton not knowing what in God's name they're doing. There is this and I know we are shambolic but let's not pretend he hadn't majorly contributed. 6 points in 13 games man. Also us sacking him 2 days after selling one of our best players he ostracised is Everton. It is so Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Maximin Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Ronaldo said: Crazy post. We got 12 points from our last 6 games under Rafa when we went down. He make a huge impact. It just wasn’t enough to undo McClaren’s tidal wave of damage. Crazy post for questioning bringing in a manager who didn’t keep us up, for the sole purpose of keeping us up Yes, with a much better team that still needed some time to gel. The belief here is our squad is crap so not sure why he’d change this so quickly. However, he did indeed almost keep us up in a short time. Why are people so confident he’d be better than Howe though? He’s had an absolute stinker at Everton so it just seems odd people are assuming he’d turn it around based on previous form, when that’s the sole reason Howe is questioned over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Neil said: 6 points in 13 games man. Would bite your hand off for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Howe, who isn't good enough, has more points in less games than that. Benitez would be a massive risk to switch too as aswell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Neil said: There is this and I know we are shambolic but let's not pretend he hadn't majorly contributed. 6 points in 13 games man. Also us sacking him 2 days after selling one of our best players he ostracised is Everton. It is so Everton. Normally can't be arsed to respond to rebuttals but by God I love you and your medium value wine loving arse. I would like to reiterate I don't believe Rafa is blameless. Love the guy but he was an idiot taking the job in the first place, and has only made the situation worse for himself. Equally, the club in general doesn't know what the fuck it's doing and it's seeped down to an appointment that simply shouldn't have happened in the first place. It's not the sole reason that Rafa had failed at all, but the reaction to his rumoured appointment should've been enough to tell the higher powers that it was going to end in tears. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHoob Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Hope Benitez being available doesn't become another distraction, not sure this does us any favours at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) If Benitez comes here, he destroys his reputation at the club sadly. We need to move on. I say that as someone with his name tattooed on my leg Edited January 15, 2022 by Danh1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, xLiaaamx said: Howe, who isn't good enough, has more points in less games than that. Benitez would be a massive risk to switch too as aswell. Not sure the comparison is so simple though. The players at Everton know they can half arse it and Rafa will take the fall due to his frosty relationship with the fans, which I think has been a contributing factor. That's not to say he hasn't dropped some bollocks since he's been there, because he certainly has, but "vibe" is important in football and it clearly wasn't right from the start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 He's done poorly at Everton, no doubt, but the same set of players finished 10th with one of the greatest managers of all time at the helm. That to me suggests there's something terminal at Everton which goes beyond tactics, formations and management style. I'd wouldn't think twice about taking him, either way, I'd fancy us more in the championship with him than with Howe at this point in time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Tbh I think we're on the same side here. It's absolute madness to say he's been the reason alone but fuck me he has been shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, Neil said: Tbh I think we're on the same side here. It's absolute madness to say he's been the reason alone but fuck me he has been shite. Aye, he’s been a disaster for you lot. Nothing to be debate there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 As others have alluded to, they finished 10th last season with the best manager of my lifetime. There’s obviously deep-rooted problems at Everton. Was a massive wrong fit from the start, notwithstanding their brilliant league position in early autumn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Bring him home! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, Paully said: Bring him home! He's already home, just at the wrong club. Liverpool moved far beyond him years ago. I admire him for sticking to his principles, but they are best suited to cup runs these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Ronaldo said: As others have alluded to, they finished 10th last season with the best manager of my lifetime. There’s obviously deep-rooted problems at Everton. Was a massive wrong fit from the start, notwithstanding their brilliant league position in early autumn. Yup. Certainly was. He has also massively contributed to our pathetic performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) This club has gone through a shitload of embarrassment over the years and I'm sure there'll be plenty more to come. But this is an avoidable one. Sacking Howe, getting Rafa back in, only to still relegated, let's just not go down that road. No guarantees Howe or Rafa can keep us up. Same goes, no guarantees we will definitely go down under either too. But I hope we only reassess our situation in the summer and not now. Edited January 16, 2022 by nufcjb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMLeazesender Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 They are not going to sack Howe and nor should they. It would stink of unprofessionalism and the media would have a field day. There is a long term plan in place and Howe is/was the starting point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 As I’ve said , don’t go back , this guy doesn’t deserve to fail here . keep the memories good . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Aye, I love Rafa, but he’s done and finished here, time to move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 8 hours ago, DMLeazesender said: They are not going to sack Howe and nor should they. It would stink of unprofessionalism and the media would have a field day. There is a long term plan in place and Howe is/was the starting point. Not sure how anyone could look at the circumstances of Howe's appointment and believe it was part of some long-term masterplan, and not just a new ownership (with negligible experience of the game) selecting what they believed to be the best managerial candidate they were able to attract in incredibly hurried and difficult circumstances. Also not sure how anyone could watch our games since Howe's arrival and feel he is automatically deserving of a place in our long-term plan irrespective of results in the coming weeks. Also, who gives a fuck what the media say? Stop caring about them, they don't care about you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 This cunt been sacked yet! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, HTT II said: This cunt been sacked yet! id imagine Monday the chop will come I’m afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 minute ago, GWN said: id imagine Monday the chop will come I’m afraid. He should take time out of the game IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FCB Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, HTT II said: This cunt been sacked yet! All reports saying he's set to be sacked now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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