Rafa Benítez (now unemployed)

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, Klaus said:

Purely hypothetical obviously, but If you could get rid of Howe today and get Rafa back, would you? 

Yes, just think (and always have) that Rafa or a manger in his style is what we needed for this season.

[Sima]

I reckon they’ll go for Rooney.

[KaKa]

2 minutes ago, duo said:

I don't think it's this at all - I just think he joined a club that a.) didn't really want him b.) had already squandered £500Mil on players which meant Rafa had zero budget to work with.  The sad thing is he'd have ben tailor made for Newcastle as the current squad is mostly his players.

 

Yes, he would have known how to get results with these mugs in the interim.

 

And then he would have already known exactly who he wanted to bring in to upgrade the team from January onwards and he would have had free reign financially and decision making wise to do so. It would have been perfect.

 

But he just wouldn't leave well alone with the Everton thing. It was like that reaction from their fans was a sign from God telling him to chill out and be patient, but he just didn't take heed man.

[duo]

Just now, SUPERTOON said:

Yes, just think (and always have) that Rafa or a manger in his style is what we needed for this season.

Yep - Rafa is just in a different league.  

[duo]

1 minute ago, Sima said:

I reckon they’ll go for Rooney.

Good shout

[AJ9]

2 minutes ago, Klaus said:

Purely hypothetical obviously, but If you could get rid of Howe today and get Rafa back as manager, would you? 

 

 

 

Yes. 

[Robster]

1 minute ago, KaKa said:

 

Yes, he would have known how to get results with these mugs in the interim.

 

And then he would have already known exactly who he wanted to bring in to upgrade the team from January onwards and he would have had free reign financially and decision making wise to do so. It would have been perfect.

 

But he just wouldn't leave well alone with the Everton thing. It was like that reaction from their fans was a sign from God telling him to chill out and be patient, but he just didn't take heed man.

Textbook NUFC luck

[KaKa]

Just now, Robster said:

Textbook NUFC luck

 

It's enough to make you weep man.

[Yorkie]

If Howe doesn't keep us up and Rafa's available I'd bring him in. But probably only in that scenario. 

 

Sadly Howe isn't ticking the most important boxes at the moment, but I'd at least like to see him given the opportunity to with a team full of new recruits. However, if we go down it's an objective failure and almost definitely an avoidable one given the amount of games he's had and the (assumed) funds afforded to him. 

 

If we go down, Rafa is basically a sure thing regarding immediate promotion so I'd definitely see us considering that if he were available. 

 

Bringing him in whilst there's already a manager here is an absolutely hideous suggestion, mind. 

[Chris_R]

5 minutes ago, Klaus said:

Purely hypothetical obviously, but If you could get rid of Howe today and get Rafa back as manager, would you? 

 

 

 

No. Just no.

 

I loved what Rafa did with us but we must move forwards, not backwards.

[Dr Venkman]

7 minutes ago, Klaus said:

Purely hypothetical obviously, but If you could get rid of Howe today and get Rafa back as manager, would you? 

 

 

 

Yes

[Hanshithispantz]

I don't know if Rafa would work as a DoF or not but he has the clout and knowlege of the game for it. Whether or not we can bring in someone more suitable in the summer is another question, I deffinitely like the look of the Brighton lad.

 

I think (and again im pulling this out my arse) if we were to just ring him up and say "Rafa, we haven't got a fucking scooby what we're doing here, we'll pay you a few million quid if you'll come and give us a hand. You've worked in several countries at the highest level, we know you have contacts, talk to Howe about his plans for the club and try and work out a squad before the window shuts. Stay with us until the summer and every single staff member at the club will personally suck you off."

 

It's a win win for all involved. Howe would have to understand that regardless of how highly he may rate himself and his ideas he just won't have the connections and experience to be running a club like us without help.

 

 

Edited January 16, 2022 by Hanshithispantz

[ilikenewcastle]

7 minutes ago, Klaus said:

Purely hypothetical obviously, but If you could get rid of Howe today and get Rafa back as manager, would you? 

 

 

 

I love Rafa but no. If our form is still rancid in a couple of months and we decide to get a new manager as a last throw of the dice - then maybe.

[Rafalove]

If we can get him we should. Any chance he’d be ip for a season in the championship again?

[KaKa]

Another key thing with Rafa is that he is really a Manager and DOF rolled into one, which would have been ideal.

 

He would have done the same kind of thing he was doing with that club in China previously. Just restructuring everything from top to bottom, and his knowledge of players globally is top notch too. None of this dilly dallying and approaching of so many targets, without knowing who could realistically be had.

[The Butcher]

If we want to stay up we bring Rafa hyem. 

[Dr Venkman]

2 minutes ago, Chris_R said:

No. Just no.

 

I loved what Rafa did with us but we must move forwards, not backwards.

Are we moving forwards if Howe relegates us?

[TRon]

8 minutes ago, Klaus said:

Purely hypothetical obviously, but If you could get rid of Howe today and get Rafa back as manager, would you? 

 

 

 

 

No. 

[Guybrush]

Haven't really seen much of him at Everton but has football really left him behind? Surely there's still room for the highly disciplined and pragmatic team tactics we saw here?

 

I think it would be a mistake to get him back here as manager right now. Our problem is not the manager. Our problem remains the previous manager, the mentality and culture he fostered, and the players he has broken beyond repair.

 

 

[Dr Venkman]

Needs a poll IMO

[TRon]

Just now, The Butcher said:

If we want to stay up we bring Rafa hyem. 

 

Is he going to commute from Merseyside?

 

 

[Menace]

10 minutes ago, Klaus said:

Purely hypothetical obviously, but If you could get rid of Howe today and get Rafa back as manager, would you? 

 

 

 

 

I think Rafa's rep has taken a serious hit after this job. I wouldn't want him back but I don't think Howe is the answer either.

[duo]

2 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

If Howe doesn't keep us up and Rafa's available I'd bring him in. But probably only in that scenario. 

 

Sadly Howe isn't ticking the most important boxes at the moment, but I'd at least like to see him given the opportunity to with a team full of new recruits. However, if we go down it's an objective failure and almost definitely an avoidable one given the amount of games he's had and the (assumed) funds afforded to him. 

 

If we go down, Rafa is basically a sure thing regarding immediate promotion so I'd definitely see us considering that if he were available. 

 

Bringing him in whilst there's already a manager here is an absolutely hideous suggestion, mind. 

As harsh as it sounds if I was the owner I wouldn't wait - I'd make the decision now.  Rafa is the kind of man that can plan for both eventualities - he also knows the players well so I wouldn't be surprised if he already had a list in mind where we needed to improve and a list of targets. 

[geordie_b]

25 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Best outcome for all parties to be honest. 

 

Best outcome would have been them doing it in the days after Bruce was sacked, its been inevitable for that long 

[KaKa]

I'm a big fan of Howe and I'm comfortable with us building with him going forward, but in an ideal world, Everton come in for Howe, and we then bring Rafa in.