Numbers Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 39 minutes ago, AsproHor8319 said: Want to try & say that to my face keyboard warrior? probably in your mammies basement, lmao A bare knuckle straightener on the nearest field is the best option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said: I think its now or never for Rafa to come back. We know he was definitely AS's first choice and that the consortium made tentative approaches before appointing Howe so there remained an ambition for Rafa to spearhead the revolution 4 months ago. So the question for them to now ask and answer is 2 fold - firstly if we are in the Championship next year who is in the dug out and then secondly do they have more faith in Howe or Rafa to make that question redundant. If the answer to the second is Rafa then they need a real long hard look into question 1. There is no value in keeping Howe if Rafa is the choice when it goes wrong and I doubt the consortium will be anything other than cool and collected in making the call either way I reckon that Howe has the next 5 matches to show he is going to get us out of this mess or he's a goner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Wandy said: I reckon that Howe has the next 5 matches to show he is going to get us out of this mess or he's a goner. Could be a goner after Leeds, gives Rafa a free week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Proper hell on in this thread , even seen keyboard warrior, living in your mams basement mentioned, fantastic turn of events. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, Numbers said: Proper hell on in this thread , even seen keyboard warrior, living in your mams basement mentioned, fantastic turn of events. Mammies basement is a nice 00's throwback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 I would be very surprised if Howe gets sacked this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Reappointing Rafa would be a backwards-looking move of pure nostalgia. He's firmly in the Mourinho zone. Will always love the guy but his time has passed. You're desperate to feel the same way as his first time around but it's never the same. No thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 I don’t think a club that’s 3-5 years away from contending for anything (and possibly even facing a year in the championship) should be appointing a manger in his sixties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, thomas said: Reappointing Rafa would be a backwards-looking move of pure nostalgia. He's firmly in the Mourinho zone. Will always love the guy but his time has passed. You're desperate to feel the same way as his first time around but it's never the same. No thank you. There’s nothing to base this on. He overachieved hugely with us and he can’t be remotely judged with any degree of accuracy on what’s happened since. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Despite his cool exterior he likes to be loved and it shows in his success’ or failures. It’s a bit simple to say he’s yesterdays man or that his ship has sailed. To say that about him would be to say that about other managers of his ilk, like Carlo Ancelotti for example.. who also did shit at Everton but is running away with La Liga. It’s the same as players, some settle in a particular club where it just works out where it wouldn’t somewhere else. Rafa works here, he gets the place and he knows how to polish a turd. Eddie also gets the place here and I think for the most part people are behind him but he doesn’t have the experience that Rafa does, for what the consortium are looking in several places for to solve a puzzle, they need only look in one place when it comes to Rafa. Now I’m not for a minute saying we need to ditch Eddie Howe, he’s not had enough time and I think the signings we’re going to make will transform the side but I’m worried about his defensive side of management, even bringing in top class defenders, they’ll still need instruction to be a cohesive unit. Looking at our fixtures, the winnable games are running out quickly.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Ronaldo said: There’s nothing to base this on. He overachieved hugely with us and he can’t be remotely judged with any degree of accuracy on what’s happened since. If you buy in to that idea - which I don't - then the inaccuracy argument still goes both ways: if you can't accurately judge him then you can't just assume he's better than the poor results. He could be worse than the results. It's time to move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwivedi Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, thomas said: Reappointing Rafa would be a backwards-looking move of pure nostalgia. He's firmly in the Mourinho zone. Will always love the guy but his time has passed. You're desperate to feel the same way as his first time around but it's never the same. No thank you. You will see Mourinho coming back on top once again and so will Benitez, they are smart managers, they just need time, both of them have a certain philosophy which takes a certain time to show results, give any one of them 3-4 seasons and you shall see them overarchiving even with limited means. And yes both of them thrives on fans support, which unfortunately Benitez utterly lacked at his last job. I have seen majority of everton fans saying at his appointment that they won't back him even if he has them back in the champions league position. Edited January 16, 2022 by Dwivedi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, relámpago blanco said: You can research both, with Rafa, us going down is a casing point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 18 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: There’s nothing to base this on. He overachieved hugely with us and he can’t be remotely judged with any degree of accuracy on what’s happened since. Mate, was wondering when you were going to show up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Haven't voted because I've no idea what to vote for!! Love Rafa and as most loved his time here. I'm just not sure it would work again, if he was given a couple of season's to slowly build the team and infrastructure then I'm confident that he would be a success. Unfortunately there is zero chance if him being given that time from our fans. As soon as he had a bad run they would turn on him.. Think it shows in the votes.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, mofo said: Haven't voted because I've no idea what to vote for!! I couldnt decide so I framed the question another way. If you walked into a room with two doors, one with Rafa holding it open and the other with Howe, which one are you walking through? The bias (and the reality) in the question is that Howe is currently the job so more people are going to stick with the status quo regardless of which would actually be better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 minute ago, geordie_b said: I couldnt decide so I framed the question another way. If you walked into a room with two doors, one with Rafa holding it open and the other with Howe, which one are you walking through? The bias (and the reality) in the question is that Howe is currently the job so more people are going to stick with the status quo regardless of which would actually be better. Rafa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Exactly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Howe. Wouldn't walk into a room with my ex tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, geordie_b said: I couldnt decide so I framed the question another way. If you walked into a room with two doors, one with Rafa holding it open and the other with Howe, which one are you walking through? The bias (and the reality) in the question is that Howe is currently the job so more people are going to stick with the status quo regardless of which would actually be better. What's on the other side of the doors ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, madras said: What's on the other side of the doors ? What's with all the questions?!?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 For me, if Howe was to be sacked due to continuing bad form or relegation I would take Rafa on the basis that I don't believe anyone better would be keen on it. I wouldn't want Howe sacked to make way for Rafa though, he has to be given a fair crack at it with the (hopefully) additional bodies we have coming in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Ronaldo said: There’s nothing to base this on. He overachieved hugely with us and he can’t be remotely judged with any degree of accuracy on what’s happened since. Of course he can. Time doesn't stand still, he couldn't even hack it in China. He's about as relevant today as Mourinho. Not that relevant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, TRon said: Of course he can. Time doesn't stand still, he couldn't even hack it in China. He's about as relevant today as Mourinho. Not that relevant. Another expert in Chinese football. Awesome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 5 minutes ago, TRon said: Of course he can. Time doesn't stand still, he couldn't even hack it in China. He's about as relevant today as Mourinho. Not that relevant. Stints in Italy and Spain weren't huge successes either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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