madras Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Looking at Rodgers and Wagner to replace Benitez if he doesn't sign a new contract according to The Times. Hope so, it'll make it so much easier to walk away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 As in Brendan Rodgers? He’s much better than anything we’ll get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Must be something in the Rodgers link, like. His name won't go away, bit like with McClaren. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 As in Brendan Rodgers? He’s much better than anything we’ll get. In a normal world, you would be pleased with Rodgers but we'd end up with more of the same. The lack of money would leave him in trouble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Must be something in the Rodgers link, like. His name won't go away, bit like with McClaren. Gets linked with any non top 6 job going like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Rodgers isn't fit to lace Rafa's boots but then again Wagner isn't either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Aye. Neither are fit to empty Rafa’s bed pan tbh. Rodgers is vastly overrated as a manager, and is undoubtedly the sort of grateful smarmy cunt Mike would like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 I don't think Rodgers is any better than average and seems a wanker to boot. Wagner did okay but... meh. If Rafa goes then surely we are in "burn it down" territory, and therefore an overrated smarmy cunt like Rodgers might be a good choice. Perhaps too talented, though. Get Joe back in the dugout to replace Rafa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Wagner did better than okay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Rodgers would be a dream for those who just want to attack all day and lose to City 5-0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Rodgers is a good coach, but he’s another fraud in terms of his patter. He’d need good money as well. Would much prefer Wagner. Both would be uninspiring choices and I could see the job being too overwhelming for someone like Wagner anyway. If the club allowed Rafa to go man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Rodgers would be a dream for those who just want to attack all day and lose to City 5-0 He’s a possession merchant, but it rarely translates into any sustained attacking play of note. If fans think Rafa’s tactics are boring or negative, they’d hate watching a Rodgers’ team pass the ball back and sideways relentlessly in our own half before launching it long or getting all the way to the opposition box before losing it just outside. Liverpool played some superb stuff under him, but they had Sterling, Sturridge and Suarez on fire plus a rejuvenated Gerrard in midfield and even then they blew the title. The following season saw Rodgers true to form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribesman Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 I would love for Benitez to stay, but if he did leave the club should think outside the box and go for someone like Marco Rose at Salzburg if Benitez does leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 They'll be old, british and like long ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 As in Brendan Rodgers? He’s much better than anything we’ll get. I'd like to see him try to produce successful passing football with substandard players. He'd have no chance, Wagner would probably be a better bet. No one's going to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear though, Rafa is getting better results than either of those two would with the same resources. Ashley won't care though, strict financial control is what matters to him, he's obviously sick of not being able to push the managers around like he used to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 As in Brendan Rodgers? He’s much better than anything we’ll get. I'd like to see him try to produce successful passing football with substandard players. He'd have no chance, Wagner would probably be a better bet. No one's going to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear though, Rafa is getting better results than either of those two would with the same resources. Ashley won't care though, strict financial control is what matters to him, he's obviously sick of not being able to push the managers around like he used to. You miss when he was at Swansea like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 As in Brendan Rodgers? He’s much better than anything we’ll get. I'd like to see him try to produce successful passing football with substandard players. He'd have no chance, Wagner would probably be a better bet. No one's going to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear though, Rafa is getting better results than either of those two would with the same resources. Ashley won't care though, strict financial control is what matters to him, he's obviously sick of not being able to push the managers around like he used to. You miss when he was at Swansea like? Seemingly so. He did pretty well their first season up with Danny Graham his main centre-forward and Mark Gower appearing in midfield for half a season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgk_lfc Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 I don't think Rodgers is any better than average and seems a wanker to boot. Wagner did okay but... meh. If Rafa goes then surely we are in "burn it down" territory, and therefore an overrated smarmy cunt like Rodgers might be a good choice. Perhaps too talented, though. Get Joe back in the dugout to replace Rafa He is definitely above average compared to PFMs. He has the right idea in terms of how to play football. If the circumstances are in his favor, he has the ability to create teams which play high quality attacking football. His teams play one way and when it clicks they are brilliant to watch. He is also good with young players and invests time in developing them. But he is not an elite manager like Rafa. He is not the type to come to a bad situation and arrest the slide by lifting everyone around him using his tactical know-how and personality. His attacking coaching is very good. I can definitely see him having a great first season with you guys with his attacking strategies combined with Rafa's defensive training drills which the players will remember. Similar to what happened at Everton with Martinez in his first season. But once the defensive discipline wears off, not sure how he will perform with you. He is a nice guy but press conferences and statements can be grating especially when he is not winning. He really needs to cut down on cringeworthy quotes. Bottom line is he is a more than a decent manager, just not as good as he thinks he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 As in Brendan Rodgers? He’s much better than anything we’ll get. I'd like to see him try to produce successful passing football with substandard players. He'd have no chance, Wagner would probably be a better bet. No one's going to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear though, Rafa is getting better results than either of those two would with the same resources. Ashley won't care though, strict financial control is what matters to him, he's obviously sick of not being able to push the managers around like he used to. You miss when he was at Swansea like? It's very hard to sustain that without very good players though, seen it with a lot of teams who come up and look fantastic for half a season but without a very good defence you need to have outstanding attackers to win enough games to stay up season after season. Just look at Fulham during this campaign. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 No matter who comes in, they won't have half the vision for the club like Rafa has. Rafa knows exactly what he wanted to do from the ground up but has been thwarted at every turn. If he leaves hopefully it gives the majority of fans the kick they need to walk or support those trying to do something about the shit ownership. Probably won't though. If we get either of the above mentioned, it'll placate most until they also get forced out for having some kind of ambition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 As in Brendan Rodgers? He’s much better than anything we’ll get. I'd like to see him try to produce successful passing football with substandard players. He'd have no chance, Wagner would probably be a better bet. No one's going to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear though, Rafa is getting better results than either of those two would with the same resources. Ashley won't care though, strict financial control is what matters to him, he's obviously sick of not being able to push the managers around like he used to. You miss when he was at Swansea like? It's very hard to sustain that without very good players though, seen it with a lot of teams who come up and look fantastic for half a season but without a very good defence you need to have outstanding attackers to win enough games to stay up season after season. Just look at Fulham during this campaign. Fulham have been awful all season. It isn’t the same as Swansea were at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Blobfish? Sigh. Would ultimately go the same way as McLaren imo who had good intentions but couldn't shoulder the weight of having to deal with our awful behind the scenes setup, get players fighting despite what they're up against and dealing with ashley twattery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 Rafa's boots are going to be a lot harder to fill than even KK'S and Sir Bobby's. KK left and we were still massive, rich and second only to ManU. When SBR left we still had a decent squad and (some) money to spend, just finished 5th. An owner with ambition. Freddie screwed up with the replacement - it was obvious to all Souness was going to be a disaster. We were still doing well enough to attract a top top coach from europe. There is no one out there that can match Rafa's tactical know-how, attention to detail, ability to get the best out of average/shitty players, have a season-long plan in place etc etc. Most of all - Rafa doesnt doubt himself or panic and shit himself under pressure, and he can't be intimidated by the likes of the Ashley. He won't be a yes man. He gets the club, the city and fans and is a uniting figure in the mould of Keegan and SBR. we are fucked if he leaves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 9, 2019 Share Posted February 9, 2019 As in Brendan Rodgers? He’s much better than anything we’ll get. I'd like to see him try to produce successful passing football with substandard players. He'd have no chance, Wagner would probably be a better bet. No one's going to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear though, Rafa is getting better results than either of those two would with the same resources. Ashley won't care though, strict financial control is what matters to him, he's obviously sick of not being able to push the managers around like he used to. You miss when he was at Swansea like? It's very hard to sustain that without very good players though, seen it with a lot of teams who come up and look fantastic for half a season but without a very good defence you need to have outstanding attackers to win enough games to stay up season after season. Just look at Fulham during this campaign. Fulham have been awful all season. It isn’t the same as Swansea were at all It's quite possible to build a decent attacking football team which can do well for a season or two on the cheap, but when you start losing your best players to the top clubs and replace them with budget versions, it would take a pretty special manager to do that season in season out. If you think Brendan is that man, then he's a better manager than Rafa basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Like others have said, if Ashley stays and Rafa goes, the club is dead to me. I'm clinging to the hope that Ashley realises that's how loads of people feel, and now is his best chance to get out with some value. But the bloke is just an absolute whopper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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