Conjo Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, BullyDogs said: Hes earning 0 at the moment 75k a week is better than 0 But if he were to accept say 75k there would be more alternatives from clubs that would probably also be willing to offer him a longer contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 31 minutes ago, BullyDogs said: Hes earning 0 at the moment 75k a week is better than 0 If he was willing to accept that he would have a club now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magvicar Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 I think Dubravka has to be given time. It's a gamble but it's one where we have little choice unless we opt for Karius who is also just as much a gamble. We can't do anything till January anyway so we just have to hope Dubravka finds his form and our defence gets back to brass tacks. De Gea in January would be fine as a stop gap but I hate his wages and would hope the club don't bow down to that kind of ask. I think we can assume Pope's out for the season and I'd rather he was just so he can fully heal and recuperate. Anyway only a loan keeper would suffice for me, whoever that may be because I don;t want a top keeper here who would oust Pope whist Pope still has a contract with us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 He was looking poor prior to the goals for me and then goals 2 and 3 looked bad. I think he will be fine and is obviously not the reason we lost, but he’s a lot further off Pope’s level than I remembered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Tbh if you’re Dubravka in this situation and you’re not trusted to play the next 20/25 games, there’s no point in you being here. It’s not like he’s accepted he’s in a position like Karius or Gillespie where he’ll only ever play a small handful of games at most, should particular circumstances arise. And from our point of view, there’s no point in paying a reserve keeper ~40k a week if we don’t trust him to play that number of games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 I’d 100% sign De Gea on loan or our long term successor to Pope this Jan but I’m pretty cutthroat about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) Don't think he can be blamed for the first two but obviously at fault for the last one and generally flapped about a lot. Ironic that his one strength with the ball at his feet is Pope's only weakness. Got to give him till January at least. Edited December 8, 2023 by Beth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCK Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 rewatch the first goal. If stands up he can side step left and take it at head height. Instead he tries to dive, his left leg plants backwards instead of a positive step towards the direction of the dive. He dives short and under the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 There's a great team in London to support for those who just want to buy their way out of short term trouble. No guarantee for success though. Can't get over the amount of people who legitimately wants us to bring in De Gea short term when we have a PL proven GK in Dubs, with the added risk of disrupting not only the keepers we already have on our books, but the entire squad if some has been strolls in on double the wages the next player has. Same people who were desperate to get Lingaard in by any chance? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 De Gea was quite error prone as well especially on shot stopping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 17 minutes ago, Conjo said: There's a great team in London to support for those who just want to buy their way out of short term trouble. No guarantee for success though. Can't get over the amount of people who legitimately wants us to bring in De Gea short term when we have a PL proven GK in Dubs, with the added risk of disrupting not only the keepers we already have on our books, but the entire squad if some has been strolls in on double the wages the next player has. Same people who were desperate to get Lingaard in by any chance? You ‘can’t get over’ people wanting a good keeper in net instead of a mediocre one? I don’t think Dubravka is a bad goalkeeper - though realistically he’s probably worse than when we were relegation candidates - but unless we’re reducing our ambitions for this season you can surely acknowledge why we’d would see a significant deficit caused by Pope’s injury and look for a remedy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 While I think Pope would've done better with the goals, that's why he's our No 1 and Dubs is back up. What I was more worried about was how much of an impact he had on our overall play. I get he can play it out from the back a bit better than Pope but I was shocked just how much we attempted it, especially when our players were getting utterly swarmed and looking terrified. His being rooted to his line impacted us a lot imo, too. Felt like every time the ball got punted in to our box it would just be bouncing around for ages, defenders looking petrified of it and I couldn't shake the feeling that Pope would've taken command of those situations with how he comes out to claim balls. I just hope a bit more understanding comes between the players. Still don't particularly want us going out and getting someone like De Gea, not that I think he'd come unless it was for stupid money anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 38 minutes ago, OCK said: rewatch the first goal. If stands up he can side step left and take it at head height. Instead he tries to dive, his left leg plants backwards instead of a positive step towards the direction of the dive. He dives short and under the ball. Great analysis, I thought he dove short too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: You ‘can’t get over’ people wanting a good keeper in net instead of a mediocre one? I don’t think Dubravka is a bad goalkeeper - though realistically he’s probably worse than when we were relegation candidates - but unless we’re reducing our ambitions for this season you can surely acknowledge why we’d would see a significant deficit caused by Pope’s injury and look for a remedy. I don't think we need to reduce our ambitions if we play Dubs and Karius until Pope is back. I don't think De Gea is close to what he used to be, and on top of that he hasn't played a competitive game since April. If it was a younger prospect we'd be looking to take over for Pope in the future I'd be more in favor of getting someone in despite not seeing it as a necessity. Edited December 8, 2023 by Conjo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 think pope saves all 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 6 hours ago, El Prontonise said: De Gea was quite error prone as well especially on shot stopping. Dubravka isn’t close to De Gea’s class Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 2 hours ago, huss9 said: think pope saves all 3. Not one keeper on the planet saves the second. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDog Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Pope might have saved the third, not sure on the first. We scored nothing so it wasn't a factor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Fucking crap. He's absolutely finished. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Dogshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Can't have a full season with him I'm afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Give Karius ago and sign someone in Jan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 We can't go the next five months with him in goal because he was decent a few years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchie Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Missing Pope already and it’s only been two games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krabbe2 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 This season is lost anyway. Doesn't matter if we're 10 or 13. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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