gdm Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 9 minutes ago, Nobody said: Well I've got a massive problem with our two remaining keepers if Pope gets injured. It should have been Gillespie or Darlow being let go, we're in deep shit if Pope picks up an injury now. You may well have a problem but you don’t pick the team. Just because you don’t rate Darlow doesn’t mean Howe doesn’t. ffs I think some people forget Rob Elliott was our number 1 in the not too distant past. Some are going way over the top about Darlow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Wish Dubs well, class act and always wanted/demanded more out of this club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 1 hour ago, OverThere said: He will be sitting on their bench so absolutely no difference. He’ll get some games in Europe, so it’s not just to sit on a bench. I can understand him wanting this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 (edited) Don’t really have an issue with Dubs here, he’s done what’s best for him, just feels like we’ve negotiated a weak deal for our club Edited August 29, 2022 by gbandit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Froggy said: We almost certainly will. Henderson hopefully have a good season and will be sold for £20-25m and we'll retain Dubravka. I would imagine there's a £1-2m loan fee, plus £5m buy option, and then his wages off your books. Don't see how it's an awful deal to be honest apart from that you're strengthening us. That's only an issue if you see us as rivals though. We’re not just strengthening you, we’re weakening ourselves which is the main issue. Dubravka to Darlow is a huge drop off in class Edited August 29, 2022 by LV Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, LV said: We’re not just strengthening you, we’re weakening ourselves which is the main issue. Dubravka to Darlow is a huge drop off in class Dubravka to Pope is how it should be looked at though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 To be fair, before we signed Pope, we were all relatively happy with our goalkeeping choices and many deemed signing Pope unnecessary, myself included. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Don't blame Dubravka for wanting the move and don't blame the club for letting him have it. It's a shame he's not up for a battle for the number 1 shirt here, but with the way Pope has started the season it's clear as day he's all but finished here. Wish him all the best, just a pity he's going to that particular piece of shit club, but there you go. Hopefully Pope stays fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Dubravka to Pope is how it should be looked at though. Sure. I’m talking backup keepers here though. Darlow nowhere near Dubs levels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 8 minutes ago, Yorkie said: just a pity he's going to that particular piece of shit club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 He’s going to score past us isn’t he?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Dropping a single place down the league is worth far more than the loan fee muted. This means we're constantly crossing our fingers nothing happens to Pope for the next 34 games as the backup is now awful. But hey, at least Man U have solved their problem. No problem with Man U asking (bet they're pissing themselves), no problem with Dubravka asking for a move either (it happens, no biggy) but it now leaves us short and taking a risk that is absolutely needless. All for about a million or 2. Is it worth it? Is it fuck, it's a mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Tomato Deuce said: Unpopular opinion, Darlow is fine for now as a backup keeper. Most clubs don’t have 2 PL starting-quality keepers. Popular opinion, a goalkeeper - second choice or not - should be capable of saving shots at his near post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 I'm hoping there's some nuance to all this that we're clueless about, otherwise it's just fucking weird, as many have already detailed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 We've spent all summer supposedly trying to look tough and in the last week we've rolled over and had our bellies tickled by Manchester United. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 20 minutes ago, midds said: Dropping a single place down the league is worth far more than the loan fee muted. This means we're constantly crossing our fingers nothing happens to Pope for the next 34 games as the backup is now awful. But hey, at least Man U have solved their problem. No problem with Man U asking (bet they're pissing themselves), no problem with Dubravka asking for a move either (it happens, no biggy) but it now leaves us short and taking a risk that is absolutely needless. All for about a million or 2. Is it worth it? Is it fuck, it's a mistake. What if its politically motivated? Let's say the club are going to push through big sponsor deals this year and need a few clubs on board (or at least abstaining) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dokko said: What if its politically motivated? Let's say the club are going to push through big sponsor deals this year and need a few clubs on board (or at least abstaining) I think that's highly unlikely chap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 I cannot believe the (over)reaction to this deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Geogaddi said: Bizzare this mind , we are literally improving Man United’s goalkeeping situation whilst making ours worse but not actually making any money out of it , don’t understand it at all. fully agree but I trust EH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novocastrian Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 If we are to prosper in this league we’ll need to work with the current ‘top 6’ and the sooner those clubs realise we are coming onboard, invited or not, the smoother those relationships will be. It looks like the ownership, in particular Amanda and Mehdad, are kicking off a hearts and minds campaign and the recent visit to Chelsea shows we are working on those relationships. Playing hardball with Man Utd over a 34 year old reserve keeper might be what we’d all like to do but it does us no favours in the future. This is realpolitik. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, midds said: I think that's highly unlikely chap Fair enough, but makes more sense than just giving Dubs to Manu for no reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Dokko said: Fair enough, but makes more sense than just giving Dubs to Manu for no reason. Absolutely Unless they've got a deal set up for a young prospect to come in for a few quid then I can't see how this leaves us in a stronger position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, Novocastrian said: If we are to prosper in this league we’ll need to work with the current ‘top 6’ and the sooner those clubs realise we are coming onboard, invited or not, the smoother those relationships will be. It looks like the ownership, in particular Amanda and Mehdad, are kicking off a hearts and minds campaign and the recent visit to Chelsea shows we are working on those relationships. Playing hardball with Man Utd over a 34 year old reserve keeper might be what we’d all like to do but it does us no favours in the future. This is realpolitik. This is just insane fanfiction that has no relationship with reality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Fairly happy with that, if the criteria genuinely are likely to be met. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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