andyman Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 15 minutes ago, Tsunami said: I could understand and even support him leaving if he said he needed 1st team football. He clearly can’t see himself getting in ahead of Pope and must be happy to sit on Man U’s which is very disappointing. Hope he faces us in the game that triggers the move permanently and he has a ‘mare. Unfortunately, players on loan usually cannot play against their origin club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 I’m hoping we’ve made an exception. Won’t be the first time for us, Lualua the finest example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 It's a PL rule Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 23 minutes ago, LV said: Are people willingly not understanding that he’s likely to be getting European football as well as sitting on their bench for league games? It’s a short career and if he gets to play in Europe for a bit of it by moving there and likely get paid more for it rather than just sit on our bench then I can totally understand him wanting this. Aye he'll actually get a decent amount of games at Man Utd. It's not hard to understand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 22 minutes ago, LV said: Are people willingly not understanding that he’s likely to be getting European football as well as sitting on their bench for league games? It’s a short career and if he gets to play in Europe for a bit of it by moving there and likely get paid more for it rather than just sit on our bench then I can totally understand him wanting this. Is it normal now that players get paid extra for loans? In my brain when a player go on loan they are on the same contract, only that the loaning club pays part of whole of the wage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Just now, Conjo said: Is it normal now that players get paid extra for loans? In my brain when a player go on loan they are on the same contract, only that the loaning club pays part of whole of the wage. Yeah he'll be on the same wage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Pity it wasn’t in 2004. https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2004/mar/01/match.sport5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, triggs said: Aye he'll actually get a decent amount of games at Man Utd. It's not hard to understand Aye, he'll probably get at least 10-12 Europa games, 5-6 domestic cup games is probably the average for Man Utd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Conjo said: Is it normal now that players get paid extra for loans? In my brain when a player go on loan they are on the same contract, only that the loaning club pays part of whole of the wage. Yeah that’s a good point. I meant higher wages if/ when he moves permanently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Will he play if they actually get far in any competition though? Surely in an FA cup semi final or final they'll play De Gea instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Skeletor said: Will he play if they actually get far in any competition though? Surely in an FA cup semi final or final they'll play De Gea instead. He'd still get about 18 games if they make the Semis of each cup and he gets dumped for De Gea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Wish people would stop bitching about Man U and how we should stitch them because if Lingard or whatever. It's not about them, it's about our relationship with our own players and how we treat them... that sort of attitude will play dividends rather than treating them as assets. I'm disappointed he's leaving but understand his perspective and think it paints the club in a good light that we haven't stood in his way. I hope it was amicable and he didn't throw his toys out of the pram as that would sour his memory, but until then, cheers Dubs and all the best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 3 hours ago, duo said: All Dubs this - he may play a few more games but I very much doubt a lot. He'll play at least 10 times for us more than likely, including in Europe. How many games would he have got for you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, Hhtoon said: Wish people would stop bitching about Man U and how we should stitch them because if Lingard or whatever. It's not about them, it's about our relationship with our own players and how we treat them... that sort of attitude will play dividends rather than treating them as assets. I'm disappointed he's leaving but understand his perspective and think it paints the club in a good light that we haven't stood in his way. I hope it was amicable and he didn't throw his toys out of the pram as that would sour his memory, but until then, cheers Dubs and all the best. Be better if it paid dividends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 49 minutes ago, Froggy said: He'll play at least 10 times for us more than likely, including in Europe. How many games would he have got for you? With our injury luck, probably a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 50 minutes ago, Froggy said: He'll play at least 10 times for us more than likely, including in Europe. How many games would he have got for you? All the cup games for a start Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 52 minutes ago, Hhtoon said: Wish people would stop bitching about Man U and how we should stitch them because if Lingard or whatever. It's not about them, it's about our relationship with our own players and how we treat them... that sort of attitude will play dividends rather than treating them as assets. I'm disappointed he's leaving but understand his perspective and think it paints the club in a good light that we haven't stood in his way. I hope it was amicable and he didn't throw his toys out of the pram as that would sour his memory, but until then, cheers Dubs and all the best. 40 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: Be better if it paid dividends. As an ex-accountant, that disappoints me far more than the "...if Lingard" debacle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Dubs injury record is not the best, I can't imagine that will improve with his age and sitting on a bench waiting for the occasional game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, duo said: All the cup games for a start So the same as us, except we have the Europa League as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Didn’t Dubs threaten to throw his toys out a few years ago when he didn’t get straight back in after an injury? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 7 hours ago, Tsunami said: Didn’t Dubs threaten to throw his toys out a few years ago when he didn’t get straight back in after an injury? When did that happen? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 20 hours ago, LV said: Are people wilfully not understanding that he’s likely to be getting European football as well as sitting on their bench for league games? It’s a short career and if he gets to play in Europe for a bit of it by moving there and likely get paid more for it rather than just sit on our bench then I can totally understand him wanting this. Yes. Yes they are wilfully not understand that point. This is NO after all. 19 hours ago, Hhtoon said: Wish people would stop bitching about Man U and how we should stitch them because if Lingard or whatever. It's not about them, it's about our relationship with our own players and how we treat them... that sort of attitude will play dividends rather than treating them as assets. I'm disappointed he's leaving but understand his perspective and think it paints the club in a good light that we haven't stood in his way. I hope it was amicable and he didn't throw his toys out of the pram as that would sour his memory, but until then, cheers Dubs and all the best. Clap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Wilfully not understand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Surely they will just loan him then not buy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 Pathetic deal, we have been pushovers when it comes to outgoings, deal makes us weaker and gives Man Utd a better second choice than us. We get back an almost 35 year old goalkeeper that we won't be able to sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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