Wallsendmag Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 SPL is a far better standard than League 1 like. I catch the occasional League one game when they are shown during the International weekends and the standard is abysmal. Also watched the League 1 play off finals last season which involved some of the best teams in that league and the level was unbelievably bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I went to Livingston vs St Johnstone in January 2007. Cracking game 3-2 to Livingston, but that's because there was loads of errors. Standard was below average but entertaining. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I was at Livingston/Hamilton two weeks ago and Livingston/Killie this last weekend and honestly its very very poor. Joint third top scorer in that league is Sam Cosgrove who scored a total of 1 goal in leagure 2 previously and 0 in the national league. Celtic and Rangers have a couple of decent players granted but the disparity in teams in wild. I went to watch Hibs v Aberdeen on Saturday whilst wor lass and the bairn were at the Edinburgh market and the standard was surprisingly decent. Comfortably above anything I could expect to see in League one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 I was at Livingston/Hamilton two weeks ago and Livingston/Killie this last weekend and honestly its very very poor. Joint third top scorer in that league is Sam Cosgrove who scored a total of 1 goal in leagure 2 previously and 0 in the national league. Celtic and Rangers have a couple of decent players granted but the disparity in teams in wild. I went to watch Hibs v Aberdeen on Saturday whilst wor lass and the bairn were at the Edinburgh market and the standard was surprisingly decent. Comfortably above anything I could expect to see in League one. Canny city, I'm up there every other week. Guess we can agree to disagree, but the spread in bad teams to okayish teams is huge in that league No I can understand that. I'd imagine if I'd been watching Hamilton v St Mirren I wouldn't have left with such a positive impression of the game up there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleazy Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 apparently McGeady has had a massive spat and said he's played his last game for them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Are their marrashewt payments finished at the end of this season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Are their marrashewt payments finished at the end of this season? Yep next season in div 3 they are fucked financially hence the chancer taking out a loan to cover running costs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Unless they find a buyer they'll be in administration this time next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest covmag Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Unless they find a buyer they'll be in administration this time next year. They are fast becoming a 3rd division club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Losing 2 of their AOL staff to Wolves and Leeds, looking to replace as recruitment has gone stale; so stale that their top 2 have left for better jobs. I know HTT took the plunge for his boy with them but it looks a right shambles there; rumours last week that they’d been asking parents to pay for fuel for coach travel (surely can’t be right but it’s out there). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Fan meeting minutes: https://static.wixstatic.com/ugd/6fecdb_97e80104a63d414f9948bad215a0c7cd.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 apparently McGeady has had a massive spat and said he's played his last game for them Mackems despise him anyway. He is Irish and doesn’t like two footed challenges. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Fan meeting minutes: https://static.wixstatic.com/ugd/6fecdb_97e80104a63d414f9948bad215a0c7cd.pdf Some highlights: SD confirmed not much can be revealed (about the potential failed takeover) but is was the purchaser’s decision. The intention was always to keep the current off-pitch management team at the helm, but the investors opted for loan agreement instead. They liked the City and the people but are private people. MM (ALS) asked if SAFC assets had been used as collateral. SD stated the money has been loaned to Madrox and secured against all their assets which is Sunderland AFC. If the loan defaults, SD, Charlie Methven & Juan Sartori lose their money and the club gets new owners, who SD has found to be good honourable people, interested in the development of the club, he believes it would not be in their interest to sell off the club. After a question from DR (RAWA), SD estimated the worth of the club to be approximately £30-50 million. SD continued saying that if we get this right, fans can expect to have a realistic shot at getting back to the premiership, but it must be managed correctly. The ship has been steadied, but still must be fully turned. Investment, concerts etc. are part of this process. We need to get out of this league and are well resourced to do this. He wants to be watching premier league football with Sunderland. NF said SAFC is an anomaly; a category 1 academy at a league one club, we cannot hold onto a player who wants to go to a premier league club, but SAFC have appearance and sell on clauses in the contracts at their new clubs. SD has, as a club, done what can be done to keep these young players, but the reality is if Liverpool, Manchester United, Spurs coming calling, Governance rules say we can't stop them leaving at 14 - 15-year-old. That is why 6 scouts have been employed to develop recruitment into the academy. PA (SLG) asked how it linked to the first team. SD appointed Phil Parkinson (PP) because he believes he is the right man for the job, he knows the league, is well connected and has a lot of experience; we are more ahead of the game, in terms of preparation for the January transfer window, than we were last year, there is a clear synergy at the club. There will be signings for the future. NF agreed that recent performances have been disappointing and when appointing the new manage, SAFC probably spoke to everyone who has been mentioned in press but, for whatever reason, did not want to come DR (RAWA) noted that the club is at an all-time, historical low as a club, there has been a decade of bad decisions and many false dawns and while it is difficult for fans to keep the faith, attendance at both home and away matches remains good. He asked if SD had a message of hope for the fans given where we are. SD replied all off-pitch developments take time, but if the football is not good, it reflects on all other decisions. A positive to take, SD says, is that we did not cut and run, we recruited top people, invested in structure and personnel. He recognised that changing the manager was a gamble, but PP has a proven track record, and SD is putting what the manager needs around him, it might take longer than he would like but the club needs time to get there. The recruitment team is the correct one and we can bring in the right players. SD continued saying everything behind the scenes is good, the owner didn't cut and run in the summer, the club has new investors, there is a strong recruitment team now in place and there have been overdue improvements to the magnificent facility, that is the Stadium of Light. SD acknowledged that previous owners have had issues with personal abuse, as have some of the players and he had himself faced physical abuse. SD believes in the process but knows there is more work to be done. He asks fans to stick with us, be positive with us and to give us and the manager time. Sunderland is a long-term project, the football club can be great, the manager has proven success at this level, SD is rolling up his sleeves and working to get this right. If he is making the wrong decisions, even with the best of intentions, he knows he will not be around for long. He said we need time to get it right, but we must do it relatively quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag_in_NZ Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Fan meeting minutes: https://static.wixstatic.com/ugd/6fecdb_97e80104a63d414f9948bad215a0c7cd.pdf Some highlights: SD confirmed not much can be revealed (about the potential failed takeover) but is was the purchaser’s decision. The intention was always to keep the current off-pitch management team at the helm, but the investors opted for loan agreement instead. They liked the City and the people but are private people. MM (ALS) asked if SAFC assets had been used as collateral. SD stated the money has been loaned to Madrox and secured against all their assets which is Sunderland AFC. If the loan defaults, SD, Charlie Methven & Juan Sartori lose their money and the club gets new owners, who SD has found to be good honourable people, interested in the development of the club, he believes it would not be in their interest to sell off the club. After a question from DR (RAWA), SD estimated the worth of the club to be approximately £30-50 million. SD continued saying that if we get this right, fans can expect to have a realistic shot at getting back to the premiership, but it must be managed correctly. The ship has been steadied, but still must be fully turned. Investment, concerts etc. are part of this process. We need to get out of this league and are well resourced to do this. He wants to be watching premier league football with Sunderland. NF said SAFC is an anomaly; a category 1 academy at a league one club, we cannot hold onto a player who wants to go to a premier league club, but SAFC have appearance and sell on clauses in the contracts at their new clubs. SD has, as a club, done what can be done to keep these young players, but the reality is if Liverpool, Manchester United, Spurs coming calling, Governance rules say we can't stop them leaving at 14 - 15-year-old. That is why 6 scouts have been employed to develop recruitment into the academy. PA (SLG) asked how it linked to the first team. SD appointed Phil Parkinson (PP) because he believes he is the right man for the job, he knows the league, is well connected and has a lot of experience; we are more ahead of the game, in terms of preparation for the January transfer window, than we were last year, there is a clear synergy at the club. There will be signings for the future. NF agreed that recent performances have been disappointing and when appointing the new manage, SAFC probably spoke to everyone who has been mentioned in press but, for whatever reason, did not want to come DR (RAWA) noted that the club is at an all-time, historical low as a club, there has been a decade of bad decisions and many false dawns and while it is difficult for fans to keep the faith, attendance at both home and away matches remains good. He asked if SD had a message of hope for the fans given where we are. SD replied all off-pitch developments take time, but if the football is not good, it reflects on all other decisions. A positive to take, SD says, is that we did not cut and run, we recruited top people, invested in structure and personnel. He recognised that changing the manager was a gamble, but PP has a proven track record, and SD is putting what the manager needs around him, it might take longer than he would like but the club needs time to get there. The recruitment team is the correct one and we can bring in the right players. SD continued saying everything behind the scenes is good, the owner didn't cut and run in the summer, the club has new investors, there is a strong recruitment team now in place and there have been overdue improvements to the magnificent facility, that is the Stadium of Light. SD acknowledged that previous owners have had issues with personal abuse, as have some of the players and he had himself faced physical abuse. SD believes in the process but knows there is more work to be done. He asks fans to stick with us, be positive with us and to give us and the manager time. Sunderland is a long-term project, the football club can be great, the manager has proven success at this level, SD is rolling up his sleeves and working to get this right. If he is making the wrong decisions, even with the best of intentions, he knows he will not be around for long. He said we need time to get it right, but we must do it relatively quickly. Had to have a chuckle when one of the attendees was called Massive, sorry Malcolm Fail.....? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 All very well taking the piss (and they give us a lot of reasons to), but we can only dream of having fan questions answered in that manner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 All very well taking the piss (and they give us a lot of reasons to), but we can only dream of having fan questions answered in that manner. Bloke is lying through his teeth there man, just as Ashley does every time he opens his mouth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapo Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 That 2nd answer stinks so bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 An incident being that hes probably their highest earner and cant afford to keep him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 An incident being that hes probably their highest earner and cant afford to keep him? Extended his contract in the summer apparently! Delightful! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 They must really regret hounding Bruce out for being a Geordie. It's been all downhill ever since Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 All loved the Party with Marty marra Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Delightful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 And there goes their one player I'd heard of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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